Re: [v6ops] IPv6-only Terminology Definition

Le 12/03/2020 à 11:44, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ a écrit :
> Yes, sorry, there is a typo there.
> 
>         However, the "end-networks", in general, need to continue supporting
>         IPv4, as there are many devices or apps, in both corporate and end-
>         user networks (smartTV, IP cameras, etc.), which are IPv4-only and it
>         is not always feasible to update or replace them.  Also if customer
>         devices in a LAN are ***IPv4-only***, they will not be able to access
>         IPv6-only services, so this means that IPv6-only services can't be
>         deployed unless it is done in such way that some transition mechanism
>         solves that problem as well (example an IPv6-only Data Center,
>         requires SIIT-DC)
> 
> 
> I've corrected in my internal draft v-06, but will wait for more inputs before publishing it.
> 
> Or maybe we could even consider a call for WG adoption?

If call for adoption there is, I will be supportive.

As usual, I will suggest to say somewhere in an appendix or so, that a 
possible definition of IPv6-only is "no IPv4 stack in linux kernel, 
unchecked IPv4 in Windows interface properties, no A entry in DNS and no 
127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts".

I would also suggest the use of the term IPv4-only, in a similar 
mannner.  Or maybe one wants to be silent about IPv4-only.

Finally, from an earlier conversation I remember the term "double stack" 
which would be clearer than the existing but ambiguous "dual stack".

Alex

> 
> Thanks for spotting it!
> 
> 
> El 12/3/20 7:58, "v6ops en nombre de Fred Baker" <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> escribió:
> 
>      Section 2, fourth paragraph.
>      
>         However, the "end-networks", in general, need to continue supporting
>         IPv4, as there are many devices or apps, in both corporate and end-
>         user networks (smartTV, IP cameras, etc.), which are IPv4-only and it
>         is not always feasible to update or replace them.  Also if customer
>         devices in a LAN are IPv6-only, they will not be able to access
>         IPv6-only services, so this means that IPv6-only services can't be
>         deployed unless it is done in such way that some transition mechanism
>         solves that problem as well (example an IPv6-only Data Center,
>         requires SIIT-DC)
>      
>      I don't understand why an IPv6-only device would not be able to access an IPv6-only services. I can understand IPv4-only devices not being able to access IPv6-only services, but that's not the statement. This paragraph seems to not follow.
>      
>      > On Mar 9, 2020, at 11:47 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>      >
>      > Hi all,
>      >
>      > After the recent discussion, I've posted a new version (minor changes) for this document:
>      >
>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-palet-v6ops-ipv6-only/?include_text=1
>      >
>      > Comments welcome!
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      > Jordi
>      > @jordipalet
>      >
>      >
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