Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem
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> This draft describes real issues but the information is a bit out of date. > Can we ask the authors to confirm that things are still the same for current > o/s releases? Then publish quickly so that we can start the *real* discussion: > how to fix? This draft shouldn't be gating any real discussion. If there are solutions please offer them now. I have read through the draft again. While the draft has some points, these are issues that has been discussed extensively. I struggle to see how this will lead to and "fixes". I have a suggestion. Given that we have beaten on this particular horse a lot over the last 15 years. Could we redo this draft into a "Why?" draft in the style of RFC7421? Explain the issues, explain the design choices and why the mechanisms function as they do, but don't phrase it as a problem that needs to be fixed. Best regards, Ole
- [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ron Bonica
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem t.petch
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem otroan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem t.petch
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem joel jaeggli
- [v6ops] Possible consensus of dhcpv6-slaac-proble… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Possible consensus of dhcpv6-slaac-pr… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] Possible consensus of dhcpv6-slaac-pr… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] Possible consensus of dhcpv6-slaac-pr… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] Possible consensus of dhcpv6-slaac-pr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Possible consensus of dhcpv6-slaac-pr… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Chuck Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Chuck Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Chuck Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] Possible consensus of dhcpv6-slaac-pr… 神明達哉
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Chuck Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Bernie Volz (volz)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-dhcpv6-slaac-problem Nathalie Trenaman
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Erik Kline
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Chuck Anderson
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP otroan
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Philip Homburg
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] sidetrack on DNS-SD vs. DHCP Fernando Gont