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Re: [v6ops] Fwd: IETF 98 v6ops agenda request

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Wed, 08 March 2017 20:29 UTC

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From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Fwd: IETF 98 v6ops agenda request
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I think we should.

Actually, I wondered several times if we should start working on “retiring” HE.

Reason for that. Is hiding IPv6 network problems. Many times, operators don’t realize that something failed with IPv6 because it falls back to IPv4.

If IPv4 fails, we don’t have such mechanism, right?

I fully understand the reason why HE was developed, but the situation is not the same, and the only way for operators and data centers to realize it now, is to force a customer complain.

Maybe updating the document and explicitly saying that HE is updated with this document AND will be deprecated, let’s say at the end of 2017, could be a nice deal.

Regards,
Jordi
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: v6ops <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org> en nombre de Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
Responder a: <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
Fecha: miércoles, 8 de marzo de 2017, 20:20
Para: "v6ops@ietf.org WG" <v6ops@ietf.org>
Asunto: [v6ops] Fwd: IETF 98 v6ops agenda request

    The chairs have received this request, and (surprise) are in the process of planning our agenda. Do folks want to discuss it?
    
    
    Begin forwarded message:
    
    From: David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com>
    
    Subject: IETF 98 v6ops agenda request
    
    Date: March 8, 2017 at 10:50:53 AM PST
    
    To: fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com, lee@asgard.org, Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
    
    Cc: v6ops-chairs@ietf.org, Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com>
    
    
    Hi v6ops chairs,
    
    Tommy Pauly and myself have written up what we've learned
    in the past few years maintaining and improving Apple's Happy Eyeballs stack,
    and submitted it as draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-update.
    We'd like the opportunity to present this at the v6ops session in Chicago.
    
    I think this would be a 15 minute presentation (including questions),
    with the title "An Update to Happy Eyeballs". Would that be possible?
    
    Full draft available here:
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-update <https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-pauly-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-update-00.txt>
    
    Thanks!
    David Schinazi
    
    
    
    
    
    
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