Re: [v6ops] RFC6555 / Multiple interfaces

"Asveren, Tolga" <tasveren@sonusnet.com> Mon, 02 January 2017 19:42 UTC

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From: "Asveren, Tolga" <tasveren@sonusnet.com>
To: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] RFC6555 / Multiple interfaces
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I would like to (re)express my interest in defining how happy-eyeballs (RFC6555) should behave in the context of multiple interfaces. I think draft-ietf-mif-happy-eyeballs-extension-11 could be a good candidate for that but I also have to admit I was hoping for something with less procedures/simpler -which may/may not be possible/a good idea at the end-.

Thanks,
Tolga

> -----Original Message-----
> From: v6ops [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fred Baker
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 8:23 PM
> To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
> Cc: v6ops@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [v6ops] RFC6555 / Multiple interfaces
> 
> 
> On Dec 30, 2016, at 9:01 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
> wrote:
> > This of course makes me a sad panda. It was done because of lack of
> interest, but if people are interested in working in this area then if we can
> gather enough people that show interest, AD might change his mind.
> 
> IMHO, MIF is readily solved, and is in fact solved in deployment in a number
> of implementations. You put the software or hardware equivalent of an L2
> switch between the connected interfaces, so that to IP they are in fact one
> interface, and a packet received on one is switched to the another if and only
> if it is appropriate.
> 
> Solved, and anything that is more complex probably has bugs to be worked
> out.
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