Re: [v6ops] transition-ipv4aas: IPv4 Multicast

<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Thu, 26 April 2018 05:32 UTC

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To: "STARK, BARBARA H" <bs7652@att.com>, V6 Ops List <v6ops@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] transition-ipv4aas: IPv4 Multicast
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Hi Barbara, 

Your alternate wording works for me. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : v6ops [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de STARK, BARBARA H
> Envoyé : mercredi 25 avril 2018 21:01
> À : V6 Ops List
> Objet : [v6ops] transition-ipv4aas: IPv4 Multicast
> 
> The transition-ipv4aas draft has the following section:
> 
> 6.  IPv4 Multicast Support
>    Actual deployments support IPv4 multicast for services such as IPTV.
>    In the transition phase it is expected that multicast services will
>    still be provided using IPv4 to the customer LANs.
>    In order to support the delivery of IPv4 multicast services to IPv4
>    clients over an IPv6 multicast network, the IPv6 Transition CE router
>    SHOULD support [RFC8114] and [RFC8115].
> 
> WAN to LAN IPv4 Multicast (such as used for delivery of IPTV) is not
> supported by many IPv4 CE routers today. Those that do "support" IPv4
> multicast often do it poorly. Since I do not believe IPv4 CE routers, in
> general, should or can be expected to support delivery of IPv4 multicast
> services, I disagree that an IPv6 Transition CE Routers SHOULD support
> delivery of IPv4 multicast services. I suggest removing this entire section.
> 
> Alternately, rephrase to say "If the IPv6 Transition CE Router supports
> delivery of IPv4 multicast services, then it SHOULD (MUST?) support [RFC8114]
> and [RFC8115]."
> 
> Barbara
> 
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