Re: [v6ops] draft-steffann-tunnels-00.txt

"Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Fri, 22 March 2013 15:19 UTC

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From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>, John Mann <john.mann@monash.edu>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-steffann-tunnels-00.txt
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We use SEAL and VET internally within Boeing, and have IRON
as a proposed network mobility solution for civil aviation
(among many other uses). The first editions of these documents
were published as RFC5320, RFC5558 and RFC6179. The second
editions are now in the RFC Editor queue:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-intarea-seal/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-intarea-vet/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-templin-ironbis/

Like AYIYA, these mechanisms are for encapsulation of any
IP-in-IP versions, including IPv6-in-IPv4. I will eventually
get around to creating a second edition of RANGER, but for
now the references are RFC5720 and RFC6139.

Thanks - Fred
fred.l.templin@boeing.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: v6ops-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Iljitsch van Beijnum
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:09 AM
> To: John Mann
> Cc: IPv6 Ops WG; draft-steffann-tunnels@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-steffann-tunnels-00.txt
> 
> On 22 mrt 2013, at 5:21, John Mann <john.mann@monash.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Since you discuss LISP which among other things can tunnel IPv6 in IPv4,
> > why not also discuss SEAL (and its friends VET, RANGER, IRON)
> 
> We were unaware of RANGER and IRON, but decided against including SEAL and
> VET. Like LISP, those protocols are not really meant to be IPv6-in-IPv4
> tunneling mechanisms, but we have information that LISP is actually used
> as such by at least a few people.
> 
> Iljitsch
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