Re: [v6ops] (More) Comments on draft-buraglio-v6ops-ula
Xipengxiao <xipengxiao@huawei.com> Thu, 28 July 2022 15:45 UTC
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From: Xipengxiao <xipengxiao@huawei.com>
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
CC: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>, IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ietf.org>, "draft-buraglio-v6ops-ula@ietf.org" <draft-buraglio-v6ops-ula@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] (More) Comments on draft-buraglio-v6ops-ula
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-deployment/ made an effort to define what IPv6-only is. I think it did a fine job. If we can agree on what IPv6-only is, we can also agree on what Dual-Stack is (any IPv6 deployment that is not IPv6-only is Dual-Stack). So it would be great if you folks can take a look at Section 1.1 and see if you agree. XiPeng From: v6ops [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Lemon Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 11:30 AM To: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Cc: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>; IPv6 Operations <v6ops@ietf.org>; draft-buraglio-v6ops-ula@ietf.org Subject: Re: [v6ops] (More) Comments on draft-buraglio-v6ops-ula Sorry, but that was deliberate. I don’t think we have a lot of clarity as to what we mean by dual stack. That leads, as you rightly pointed out, to circular discussions. On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 11:28 Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote: > On Jul 26, 2022, at 6:08 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com<mailto:mellon@fugue.com>> wrote: > > For example, is a v6-only network with NAT64 dual-stack? No hats. With respect, I tend to think this question muddies the waters. You said it's a v6-only network. It's v6-only. If it has an access mechanism (NAT64) to enable someone else to communicate with it using a different technology, that isn't inherent in the network, and doesn't change the nature of the network.
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