Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Sat, 13 December 2014 22:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41
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Mark Andrews writes: > > In message <CAAdbxrpgsdJJ0exP435JSB=m7RV=yEYw8-cOx9xfcAzipkoy0g@mail.gmail.co > m> > , Tariq Saraj writes: > > > > There are some issues with 6rd as well, IPv6 with all its powerful features > > is still under critical objections in academia just because of the urgency > > shown by IETF in standardizing protocols like 6to4 and 6rd. 6to4 clearly > > mentioned that it cannot support multicast at layer-3, on the other end 6rd > > claimed that multicast can be provided, my question is that while > > standardizing 6rd which at that time was just supporting unicast traffic > > traversing across IPv4 network and its still not matured enough to provide > > multicast support yet in its functionality other than using some proxy > > support for multicast traffic. why It was standardized ? > > 6to4 and 6rd are interim solutions for delivering IPv6 over IPv4. > They were standardized so that manufactures could ship products > that interoperate. > > Engineering is all about trade offs. With 6to4 and 6rd it is about > delivering IPv6 unicast in a timely manner while waiting for the > intermediate network components to be upgraded to support IPv6. > > If you need IPv6 multicast then you need to arrange for it to be > delivered. You can still run multicast tunnels over 6to4 and 6rd > if you need to. They just don't supply multicast natively. > > I suspect you will find you will need to do this even with native > IPv6 as many ISP's are in the business of delivering global multicast Missed the key word "not" are *not* in the business of delivering global multicast > traffic. > > > a common > > university level student is considering IPv6 nothing more than just a large > > address space. The support for multicast traffic is increasing every day at > > application level. My request at this forum is to consider 6rd along with > > the 6to4 so that in future both of these protocols not to become a part of > > any network device. I personally feels that instead of supporting to > > promote the IPv6 both of these protocols are becoming obstacles in this > > regards. I prefer using GRE over these automatic tunneling mechanisms at > > least GRE supports multicast on network layer and let the application > > program to design his/her application in more different ways. > > Mark > -- > Mark Andrews, ISC > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Tariq Saraj
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Mark ZZZ Smith
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Mark ZZZ Smith
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Tariq Saraj
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Mark ZZZ Smith
- [v6ops] Multicast support [was: v6ops Digest, Vol… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] Multicast support [was: v6ops Digest,… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Templin, Fred L
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] v6ops Digest, Vol 52, Issue 41 Mark Andrews