[v6tc] Re: About the (un)upgradability of the NAT box

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On 2005-03-02, at 07.44, Pekka Savola wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
>> I read this as if you are thinking of hardware upgrades. I was 
>> thinking
>> firmeware upgrades.
>
> Do you get firmware upgrades to those cheap-o DSL routers etc?

At least to the ones I have seen.

> Do the users have any idea how to install them?

Do users upgrade and patch their Windows XPs? How many bots did you 
kill in your network today?

>>> So maybe we need to revisit the the assumption on the
>>> (un)upgradability of the NAT box after all...
>
> My point is that the users are going to have to have a recent host OS 
> in any case (to support IPv6, and to support the tunnel configuration 
> protocol).  We assume that most of the users already _have_ a recent 
> OS (and only need to get the tunnel configuration piece, if even 
> that).  We cannot assume that the users have a v6-capable DSL, 
> because, well.. those don't really exist in the mass market, and the 
> users wouldn't want to pay 100$-50$ for the upgrade just to get v6.

We can't assume that this tunnelling mechanism will just magically 
appear at the users end. It will have to get there, which means 
upgrading something somehow.

> But this can indeed be discussed at the BOF.

Ok.

- - kurtis -

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