Re: [VCARDDAV] vcardrev+vcardxml wglc status

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Mon, 30 August 2010 20:05 UTC

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Marc, thanks for the update. As you mentioned, the approach you suggest
seems reasonable to me with my "AD hat" on.

On 8/30/10 12:13 PM, Marc Blanchet wrote:
> Hello,
> - as you have seen on the mailing list,
> (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vcarddav/current/msg01651.html)
> we have received email about some possible issues on vcardrev.
> Hopefully, the details of these issues will be sent to the mailing list
> asap.
> 
> - the email below was also sent to various people, and I had the ok from
> the sender to forward it to the working group. As you can see, there is
> a request to try to discuss about some level of convergence between the
> various formats. I have expressed and also had AD support that we should
> have that discussion with the requesters. We are awaiting for a conf
> call to be setup.
> 
> - given those two recent events, after discussion and agreement with AD,
> we are holding the ietf last call until we have some perspectives on
> these two threads. If nothing happens soon, then we will revisit the
> next steps.
> 
> Marc, co-chair IETF vcarddav wg.
> 
> -------- Message original --------
> Sujet: contact formats -- IETF/OMA/PoCo/W3C convergence?
> Date : Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:24:12 +0200
> De : Thomas Roessler <tlr@w3.org>
> Pour : Tantek Celik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>, Cristina Badulescu
> <cristina.badulescu@ericsson.com>, Mark Blanchet
> <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>, Frederick Hirsch
> <Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com>, Robin Berjon <robin@robineko.com>,
> jsmarr@stanfordalumni.org, Chris Messina <chris.messina@gmail.com>,
> Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name>, Rich Tibbett <rich.tibbett@gmail.com>,
> Mike Hanson <mhanson@mozilla.com>, Suresh Chitturi <schitturi@rim.com>,
> Pete Resnick <presnick@qualcomm.com>, simon.perreault@viagenie.ca
> Copie à : Thomas Roessler <tlr@w3.org>, public-ietf-w3c
> <public-ietf-w3c@w3.org>, W3C Device APIs and Policy WG
> <public-device-apis@w3.org>, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>,
> Victoria.Gray@forapolis.com, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, Dominique
> Hazaël-Massieux <dom@w3.org>, msk@cloudmark.com
> 
> Hello,
> 
> this note is addressed to various individuals involved in contact format
> related work at and liaison relationships between W3C, IETF, OMA, and
> Portable Contacts.
> 
> The W3C Device API WG is working on a JavaScript API for address books:
>     http://www.w3.org/TR/contacts-api/
> 
> The API's contact data model is currently based on the Portable Contacts
> data model.
> 
> We understand that the IETF carddav WG would prefer us to base our work
> on a model that is compatible with vcard4.  We further understand that
> the vcardrev draft has been in WG last call for a while.  It appears
> that there have been recent comments on the IETF carddav WG's mailing
> list that suggest a discussion about alignment between PoCo and vcard4.
> 
> Further, we have received a liaison note from OMA that suggests that we
> possibly adapt OMA's Converged Address Book work.  We understand that
> the OMA format is about to be frozen as well:
>     http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/docs/OMA-LS_877-OMA_COM_to_W3C_Contact_Fields_Attachment-20100823-A.pdf
> 
> 
> The W3C Device API WG is currently reviewing the various specifications
> and trying to see in detail where the formats agree or disagree; that
> work should be done within a week.  (Kudos to Rich Tibbett at Opera
> Software.)
> 
> It sounds like an informal discussion about overall directions for the
> various contacts formats, based on that review, would be beneficial in
> order to see whether further fragmentation can be avoided.  We're
> willing to host a phone conference for this conversation at W3C.
> 
> The purpose of this e-mail is to see whether there is interest in this
> sort of conversation, and whether there are timing considerations that
> we all should be aware of.
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Thomas Roessler, W3C  <tlr@w3.org>  (@roessler)