Re: [VCARDDAV] vcardrev+vcardxml wglc status
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Mon, 30 August 2010 20:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [VCARDDAV] vcardrev+vcardxml wglc status
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Marc, thanks for the update. As you mentioned, the approach you suggest seems reasonable to me with my "AD hat" on. On 8/30/10 12:13 PM, Marc Blanchet wrote: > Hello, > - as you have seen on the mailing list, > (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vcarddav/current/msg01651.html) > we have received email about some possible issues on vcardrev. > Hopefully, the details of these issues will be sent to the mailing list > asap. > > - the email below was also sent to various people, and I had the ok from > the sender to forward it to the working group. As you can see, there is > a request to try to discuss about some level of convergence between the > various formats. I have expressed and also had AD support that we should > have that discussion with the requesters. We are awaiting for a conf > call to be setup. > > - given those two recent events, after discussion and agreement with AD, > we are holding the ietf last call until we have some perspectives on > these two threads. If nothing happens soon, then we will revisit the > next steps. > > Marc, co-chair IETF vcarddav wg. > > -------- Message original -------- > Sujet: contact formats -- IETF/OMA/PoCo/W3C convergence? > Date : Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:24:12 +0200 > De : Thomas Roessler <tlr@w3.org> > Pour : Tantek Celik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu>, Cristina Badulescu > <cristina.badulescu@ericsson.com>, Mark Blanchet > <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>, Frederick Hirsch > <Frederick.Hirsch@nokia.com>, Robin Berjon <robin@robineko.com>, > jsmarr@stanfordalumni.org, Chris Messina <chris.messina@gmail.com>, > Cyrus Daboo <cyrus@daboo.name>, Rich Tibbett <rich.tibbett@gmail.com>, > Mike Hanson <mhanson@mozilla.com>, Suresh Chitturi <schitturi@rim.com>, > Pete Resnick <presnick@qualcomm.com>, simon.perreault@viagenie.ca > Copie à : Thomas Roessler <tlr@w3.org>, public-ietf-w3c > <public-ietf-w3c@w3.org>, W3C Device APIs and Policy WG > <public-device-apis@w3.org>, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>, > Victoria.Gray@forapolis.com, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, Dominique > Hazaël-Massieux <dom@w3.org>, msk@cloudmark.com > > Hello, > > this note is addressed to various individuals involved in contact format > related work at and liaison relationships between W3C, IETF, OMA, and > Portable Contacts. > > The W3C Device API WG is working on a JavaScript API for address books: > http://www.w3.org/TR/contacts-api/ > > The API's contact data model is currently based on the Portable Contacts > data model. > > We understand that the IETF carddav WG would prefer us to base our work > on a model that is compatible with vcard4. We further understand that > the vcardrev draft has been in WG last call for a while. It appears > that there have been recent comments on the IETF carddav WG's mailing > list that suggest a discussion about alignment between PoCo and vcard4. > > Further, we have received a liaison note from OMA that suggests that we > possibly adapt OMA's Converged Address Book work. We understand that > the OMA format is about to be frozen as well: > http://dev.w3.org/2009/dap/docs/OMA-LS_877-OMA_COM_to_W3C_Contact_Fields_Attachment-20100823-A.pdf > > > The W3C Device API WG is currently reviewing the various specifications > and trying to see in detail where the formats agree or disagree; that > work should be done within a week. (Kudos to Rich Tibbett at Opera > Software.) > > It sounds like an informal discussion about overall directions for the > various contacts formats, based on that review, would be beneficial in > order to see whether further fragmentation can be avoided. We're > willing to host a phone conference for this conversation at W3C. > > The purpose of this e-mail is to see whether there is interest in this > sort of conversation, and whether there are timing considerations that > we all should be aware of. > > Regards, > -- > Thomas Roessler, W3C <tlr@w3.org> (@roessler)
- [VCARDDAV] vcardrev+vcardxml wglc status Marc Blanchet
- Re: [VCARDDAV] vcardrev+vcardxml wglc status Peter Saint-Andre