Re: [video-codec] NHW Project - new version - very high compression - Interesting for IETF?
Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> Thu, 04 October 2018 23:24 UTC
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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: Raphael Canut <nhwcodec@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [video-codec] NHW Project - new version - very high compression - Interesting for IETF?
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Hi Raphael Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 03:59:08PM +0200, Raphael Canut wrote: > Hello Michael, > > Many thanks for your answer Sir! > > It interests me a lot that the NHW Project algorithm would be studied for > the great FFV1 codec! I think it would only be studied if someone (like for example you) would do that study, that is compare it to current ffv1 and suggest it as an algorithm for a future version. Of course you would only do that if/when you see that as making sense. For example when it is better than the current code, supports lossless and arbitrary image sizes ... What i wanted to say with my reply is more that suggestions to extend ffv1 in ways that improve it would be welcome. > > Just first I wanted to point out that the NHW Project is very experimental > for now.For example there is no lossless mode and it is now only for > 512x512 image size... > > Do you plan to add to FFV1 a lossy intra-coded picture mode? That would only make sense if that is either a very simple & natural extension to existing code or if it adds significant value over other existing codecs. > > Maybe first and before going deeper, you can try the NHW Project and see if > in its current state it can be interesting for FFV1? > > Many thanks again! > Cheers, > Raphael > > > > Le jeu. 4 oct. 2018 à 14:37, Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> a > écrit : > > > Hi Raphael > > > > On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 06:42:01PM +0200, Raphael Canut wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Maybe it could be interesting for professional people of this list, I > > have > > > improved the NHW Project image compression codec. > > > > > > This new version is better and I have added very high compression, which > > is > > > very competitive with x265 (HEVC).Maybe this version could be now > > > interesting for the IETF video codec working group... > > > > > > For reminder, the NHW Project has more neatness than x265 (HEVC) and I > > find > > > it visually more pleasant, it is royalty-free, and it is at least 50x > > > faster to encode and at least 15x faster to decode than x265 (optimized > > > HEVC)! So it is meeting the criteria of the IETF video codec. > > > > > > You can find more at: http://nhwcodec.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > Sorry again if you find that I am "spamming" the list (do not hesitate to > > > let me know), but it is extremely difficult for me to reach the Industry > > > for my codec. > > > > I cant speak about NHW (as i have not looked at it yet) or for IETF > > but somewhat on topic and related, if you are interrested in > > working on a IETF "standarized" video codec". As the author of the > > original FFV1 spec. I and i belive "we" at IETF cellar would be very > > interrested > > in seeing work done to improve future iterations of FFV1. And while > > FFV1 is not a wavelet codec really i think there are no real constraints > > of what a future v5, v6 or whatever might do, it could use a completely > > different algorithm if the people on IETF-cellar feel thats the right > > way forward. > > I had always imagined long before cellar-IETF existed that future > > revissions > > of FFV1 would be designed based on some sort of competition between > > different algorithms being tested with the aim being simplicity, > > high compression, speed and losslessness. > > Also image coding and intra only coded video are very closely related, > > its basically almost the same problem. > > > > Thanks > > > > [...] > > > > -- > > Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB > > > > No human being will ever know the Truth, for even if they happen to say it > > by chance, they would not even known they had done so. -- Xenophanes > > > _______________________________________________ > video-codec mailing list > video-codec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/video-codec -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB No human being will ever know the Truth, for even if they happen to say it by chance, they would not even known they had done so. -- Xenophanes
- [video-codec] NHW Project - new version - very hi… Raphael Canut
- Re: [video-codec] NHW Project - new version - ver… Raphael Canut
- Re: [video-codec] NHW Project - new version - ver… Michael Niedermayer
- Re: [video-codec] NHW Project - new version - ver… Raphael Canut
- Re: [video-codec] NHW Project - new version - ver… Michael Niedermayer
- Re: [video-codec] NHW Project - new version - ver… Raphael Canut