Re: [video-codec] Storage format (Re: Proposed charter)
"Timothy B. Terriberry" <tterribe@xiph.org> Mon, 05 November 2012 19:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: [video-codec] Storage format (Re: Proposed charter)
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Ralph Giles <giles@mozilla.com> wrote: > primarily discussed in other areas of the IETF, like avt. That's not > obviously the case for a storage format, so it's helpful to have a > separate deliverable for this in the videocodec charter. Right. This item was primarily there to justify something like the current draft-terriberry-oggopus being discussed in the codec WG. Such a deliverable is needed to allow Opus to be served in the HTML5 <audio> tag. After consultation with various ADs concluded that they wanted that work done in codec, we were able to add a deliverable for it based on some implicit language in the charter, but I wanted to be more explicit about it this time. The HTML5 <video> tag is still an important use case to me, DASH or no DASH. Whether that file format (or formats) should support live streaming (a la WebM, Ogg, and MPEG-TS) or chunked delivery or any of a number of other possible container features is probably a subject for requirements, as Ralph said, and not for the charter, in my personal opinion.
- [video-codec] Proposed charter Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [video-codec] Proposed charter Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [video-codec] Proposed charter Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [video-codec] Proposed charter Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [video-codec] Proposed charter Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- [video-codec] Storage format (Re: Proposed charte… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [video-codec] Storage format (Re: Proposed ch… Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [video-codec] Storage format (Re: Proposed ch… Ralph Giles
- Re: [video-codec] Storage format (Re: Proposed ch… Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [video-codec] Storage format (Re: Proposed ch… Ralph Giles
- Re: [video-codec] Storage format (Re: Proposed ch… Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [video-codec] Storage format (Re: Proposed ch… Timothy B. Terriberry