Re: [vmeet] Remote Hubs : Existing Internet Drafts

[Christian O'Flaherty <[e-mail]>]

Before we start working on the documents I would try to decide what do we need, and before doing that I will try to clarify what we did because we had different needs:

The Remote Hubs we’ve been doing were mainly to promote IETF participation. They were informal, participants were newcomers, the format was adapted by the organizer, requirements were minimum because we wanted to have many people organizing them and we wanted them to be attractive (not boring).

The existing documents (including the general one) are “aligned” with that need.

We’re now discussing how can we adapt those experiences to make them useful for a WG work.

Problems are different (we don’t care if the WG sessions are boring, decisions on consensus are difficult, is it appropriate to have the main discussions, presentations and Q&A on the remote hub vs the real meeting?, etc)  
Should we use a different name for our current Hubs? Community Hubs vs. IETF Hubs
Do we need a more formal process when real work is done remotely? (do we need new “roles” for the hubs (like a virtual chair), should they be recognized/acknowledged/approved by the IETF)
How can we make it equivalent to be an individual remote participant vs. part of a remote hub. And how are they different to interim [video] calls?

a way forward could be to update the current documents making it clear it was an experiment to promote IETF participation and start a learning process on doing something more formal.

Christian 

> On Feb 2, 2017, at 1:02 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> Here are the existing remote hub drafts.  There is a main one & then one from Latin America & one from India.
> 
> We can combine them, revise them, throw them out & start over, whatever we all agree on.  But, I thought I would at least let people know what was out there.
> 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-elkins-ietf-remote-hubs-00.html
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-oflaherty-ietf-remote-hubs-lac-00
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hegde-remote-hubs-india-01
> 
> Somewhere in my brain I had it that Christian was going to lead this effort.  Do I have this wrong?   Is this the time?
> 
> I have not heard anything from the Africa region about Chicago.   So, I think that this is not a real need.
> 
> But I am thinking that we may want to have done some good work on defining remote hubs and working on access & other issues before Prague.
> 
> I have also put some feelers out to people about a Silicon Valley remote hub.  (That is pretty much my neck of the woods.)   If anyone wants to work on that with me, please contact me unicast.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nalini Elkins
> Inside Products, Inc.
> www.insidethestack.com
> [phone]

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