Re: Next Call: Monday, October 1 2-3pm UK/London

John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com> Thu, 27 September 2012 13:13 UTC

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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 09:13:41 -0400
From: John C Klensin <klensin@jck.com>
To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Next Call: Monday, October 1 2-3pm UK/London
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--On Thursday, September 27, 2012 06:43 -0400 Barry Leiba
<barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:

> There's a big difference, to people who are using a number of
> Google's services in one manner now, between posting text that
> we choose to IETF mailing lists, and "suddenly" being asked to
> join Google+ and agree to T&Cs that change the way all Google
> services work for us.  In order to use Google Hangout I have
> to join Google+ and "make my profile public", which has
> privacy implications that I can't control.

Yep.   I would probably whine about the use about a proprietary
calendar format (which iCalendar isn't, of course), but the
thing that set me off was seeing a series of links that would
sign me up to an IMO hostile privacy policy that contains
provisions by which it could be made worse at any time.    The
fact that I'm getting spammed about meetings I couldn't possibly
attend or be interested in, including automatic insertion of
those meetings into a Google calendar that I can't get rid of on
my phone has definitely increased my sensitivity to the
particular example Barry raises.

    best,
     john