Re: [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI
Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Mon, 22 July 2013 21:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI
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> So, if IRIs are truly only for presentation, then the latter example above > should be what WF servers return. The query target is always a > percent-encoded URI, so it’s a non-issue. Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Barry On Jul 22, 2013 5:27 PM, "Paul E. Jones" <paulej@packetizer.com> wrote: > Barry,**** > > ** ** > > The reason I raise this is that RFC 5988 refers to the target IRI (the > “href” in WebFinger link relation) and context IRI (the “subject” and > “aliases” in WebFinger). Only ASCII is used in some protocols, so the IRIs > must be formatted as URIs.**** > > ** ** > > However, JRD is JSON and, therefore, Unicode. Thus, we could easily > accommodate links like this:**** > > ** ** > > {**** > > "rel" : "test2",**** > > "href" : "http://example.org/私の 文書.txt"**** > > }**** > > ** ** > > As opposed this form:**** > > ** ** > > {**** > > "rel" : "test2",**** > > "href" : " > http://example.org/%E7%A7%81%E3%81%AE%20%E6%96%87%E6%9B%B8.txt"**** > > }**** > > ** ** > > I have no strong preference, but the text did have IRI mentioned in one > place in the JRD spec section, but it was not consistent through the > document. Everywhere else, we specified URI.**** > > ** ** > > So, if IRIs are truly only for presentation, then the latter example above > should be what WF servers return. The query target is always a > percent-encoded URI, so it’s a non-issue.**** > > ** ** > > Paul**** > > ** ** > > *From:* barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com [mailto: > barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Barry Leiba > *Sent:* Monday, July 22, 2013 4:30 PM > *To:* Paul E. Jones > *Cc:* Martin J. Dürst; webfinger@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI**** > > ** ** > > I believe WF should only use URIs. I believe that IRIs are a presentation > layer thing.**** > > Barry**** > > On Jul 22, 2013 1:50 AM, "Paul E. Jones" <paulej@packetizer.com> wrote:*** > * > > Folks, > > The term URI is used almost exclusively in the WebFinger spec, with IRI > appearing only twice (outside of the reference). This is because URI is > used in RFC 6415 almost exclusively. However, RFC 5988 uses the term IRI > in > most of the text. That said, RFC 5988 also says things like the "target > IRI > as a URI-Reference" ... > > I feel like we have a terminology problem and it's not quite clear to me > how > to fix it. Should we change every instance of URI to IRI? Should URI be > used in most places, with IRI discussed specifically somewhere? Or is > there > even a need to mention IRI given that IRIs can be converted to URIs? > > I would really like to get this right, but it definitely does not look > right > now with only one normative use of IRI in section 4.4.4. Who can help me > with this? > > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > webfinger mailing list > webfinger@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webfinger**** >
- [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI Paul E. Jones
- Re: [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI Barry Leiba
- Re: [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI Mike Jones
- Re: [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI Paul E. Jones
- Re: [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI Barry Leiba
- Re: [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI Barry Leiba
- Re: [webfinger] Webfinger and URI vs IRI Martin J. Dürst