Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI
"Paul E. Jones" <paulej@packetizer.com> Mon, 22 July 2013 07:03 UTC
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From: "Paul E. Jones" <paulej@packetizer.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 03:03:16 -0400
To: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
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Subject: Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI
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There is a section in 3986 that defines "absolute-URI". The syntax doors not allow for a fragment. I think the intent is to specify just "URI" and not absolute URI. Paul -------- Original Message -------- From: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> Sent: Mon Jul 22 02:15:35 EDT 2013 To: "Paul E. Jones" <paulej@packetizer.com> Cc: "webfinger@ietf.org" <webfinger@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI I just read your note 3 times, and I don’t get it. 3986 describes the syntax of a “URI reference” to an absolute or relative URI. A relative URI reference can have an arbitrary number of leading parts missing, e.g. //foo.bar/cat/dog?x=y /cat/dog?x=y ./dog?x=y When specs specify absolute URIs, they typically just mean you can’t omit any leading parts, it has nothing to do with whether a #fragment is there or not. -T On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Paul E. Jones <paulej@packetizer.com>wrote: > Folks, > > One of the requirements in the JRD spec is that certain URIs (e.g., those > identifying link relation types and properties) be "absolute URIs". This > term has been a point of confusion, since RFC 3986 uses the term to have a > concrete meaning, namely this: > > absolute-URI = scheme ":" hier-part [ "?" query ] > > And the term is used, because that's the term used in the OASIS XRD > specification. However, it was not clear to me whether that referred to > the > above (which I assumed) or referred to URIs that are not relative URIs > (i.e., those lacking a scheme specified). > > I had an exchange with Eran Hammer and Mark Nottingham. I believe the > intent of that language was not to require the above constrained syntax, > but to require the standard URI syntax: > > URI = scheme ":" hier-part [ "?" query ] [ "#" fragment ] > > Given that understanding, I believe we should remove the word "absolute" > that appears in front of "URI" in the WebFinger spec. Do others have an > opinion on this? > > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > webfinger mailing list > webfinger@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webfinger >
- [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Paul E. Jones
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Tim Bray
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Paul E. Jones
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Paul E. Jones
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Paul E. Jones
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI John Bradley
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Nat Sakimura
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI John Bradley
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI John Bradley
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Mike Jones
- Re: [webfinger] Absolute URI vs URI Paul E. Jones
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