Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Mon, 31 October 2016 23:56 UTC
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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 10:56:27 +1100
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Subject: Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption
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Hi Peter and JR, Thanks both for picking up on my stupid errors. Hasty is not always careful enough, but I was working to a time limit. With 5 minutes left, I think that I managed to get all your input integrated. And your reminder about vapid was timely. I think that we can dispense with any attempt to remove Crypto-Key, since we have to have it for vapid anyway. Now I need to think about getting the python implementation updated. --Martin On 1 November 2016 at 10:31, Peter Beverloo <beverloo@google.com> wrote: > Hi Martin, > > Thanks for the update and the proposal! > > I've reviewed these today, and have minor some points of feedback. I'll > deliberately avoid the topics of interoperability and upgrade cost here. > > First of all, this indeed vastly improves layering between the drafts. I > very much like how webpush-encryption is now built on top of encryption- > encoding as opposed to being some sort of fork. > >>> A push message MUST include a zero length keyid parameter in the >>> content coding header. This allows implementations to ignore the first >>> 21 octets of a push message. > > I don't think this is right. The `salt` and the `rs` must still be known, > and those are included in the header. > >>> A push service is not required to support more than 4096 octets of >>> payload body (see Section 7.2 of [I-D.ietf-webpush-protocol]), which >>> equates to at most 4059 octets of cleartext. > > I think this forgot about the padding -- > > 4096 - 16 (auth) - 2 (padding length) - 21 (header w/o keyid) = 4,057 > > May also want to s/cleartext/plaintext/ for consistency with encryption- > encoding. > >>> An Application Server MUST include exactly one aes128gcm content >>> coding, and at most one entry in the Crypto-Key field. This allows the >>> keyid parameter to be omitted. > > This means the draft is incompatible with VAPID again. It must have at > most one Crypto-Key entry that has a `dh` value. > > I haven't yet been able to validate the examples in the draft, but it > sounds like you're changing these anyway per jr's feedback (+1 to that). > > Thanks, > Peter > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On 1 November 2016 at 10:07, jr conlin <jconlin@mozilla.com> wrote: >> > One small comment, then? Can we change the transmitted Content-Encoding >> > type to match the new Content-type of "aes128gcm" instead of the long >> > abandoned "aesgcm128"? (See point #4) >> >> Ouch, that's going to hurt. I'll have to redo the examples :*( 40 >> minutes until the deadline, go! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Webpush mailing list >> Webpush@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/webpush > >
- [Webpush] Major change to encryption Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption jr conlin
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption jr conlin
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Peter Beverloo
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Peter Beverloo
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption jr conlin
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption JR Conlin
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Martin Thomson
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Costin Manolache
- Re: [Webpush] Major change to encryption Martin Thomson