Re: [websec] Stephen Farrell's Yes on draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-09: (with COMMENT)

Tobias Gondrom <tobias.gondrom@gondrom.org> Sat, 17 August 2013 19:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [websec] Stephen Farrell's Yes on draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-09: (with COMMENT)
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On 14/08/13 23:48, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-websec-x-frame-options-09: Yes
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> (Personal opinion only, no change requested unless it
> resonates with folks.) I would prefer that this not say
> that NoScript impairs broswer utility. I find it fine.
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> Other than that, this is a fine draft, thanks.
>

Stephen,
personally, I use NoScript, too.

But, looking at todays web applications JavaScript and frames are widely
spread and many web applications would indeed be very impaired if you
disable JavaScript and frames  in your browser entirely.
Some years ago people tried to discourage JavaScript for security
sensitive applications (read "most of the web applications") and to
disable JavaScript in the browser, but meanwhile we moved past that
point and try to fix the security/trust models for JavaScript using CSP
- which I hope gives us another chance to fix large parts of it).
JavaScript functions are quite common nowadays in airline booking
systems, banking, corporate websites, etc. Be it for design, client side
input validation or other interactive functionality up to editing
capabilities.

Best regards, Tobias