[weirds] Ted Lemon's Discuss on draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-10: (with DISCUSS)
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Subject: [weirds] Ted Lemon's Discuss on draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-10: (with DISCUSS)
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Ted Lemon has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec-10: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-weirds-rdap-sec/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As far as I can tell, this specification effectively relies on HTTP authentication as its sole MTI mechanism, and leaves things like OAuth as sort of "you could do this, but we aren't saying how." I am deeply uncomfortable with this, because HTTP authentication really sucks when you are trying to make it work in a context where authentication is optional. I think if you want to rely on this mechanism, you need to give the reader more guidance on how to make this work. What I mean is that in order to trigger the client to send authentication, you have to send back a 401 Unauthorized HTTP response. But that assumes that authentication _is_ required, and it's not. So how does the server know to send back the HTTP unauthorized response? The answer is that it does not, and so you need to somehow signal to the client that it should send more authentication info if it wants better information, while still returning information in case the client has no credentials to offer. This is probably doable, but simply relying on RFC 7235 without explaining how to make it work isn't sufficient.
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- Re: [weirds] Ted Lemon's Discuss on draft-ietf-we… Richard Barnes
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- Re: [weirds] Ted Lemon's Discuss on draft-ietf-we… Richard Barnes
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