Re: [weirds] Fwd: Standardising Structure in URIs

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Thu, 29 August 2013 19:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [weirds] Fwd: Standardising Structure in URIs
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As it will be a working group item, it's certainly open for discussion.  If
you'd like to broach the topic on apps-discuss now, please feel free to do
so.

-MSK


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Andy Newton <andy@arin.net> wrote:

>  Is it possible we can get the draft author to address our
> specifications? I agree with some of the content of that draft, but other
> bits seem to say "THOU MUST use URI Templates". That is an issue that has
> been discussed a couple of times here, but it seems to add little utility
> and causes more complexity on the client in addition to additional
> roundtrips.
>
>  -andy
>
>   From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:40 PM
> To: "weirds@ietf.org" <weirds@ietf.org>
> Subject: [weirds] Fwd: Standardising Structure in URIs
>
>    FYI, this is likely to be adopted by APPSAWG.  It may affect our URI
> specification stuff, which I think drew a DISCUSS during IESG evaluation.
>
>  -MSK
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
> Date: Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:03 PM
> Subject: Standardising Structure in URIs
> To: Apps Discuss <discuss@apps.ietf.org>
> Cc: Murray Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>, Salvatore Loreto <
> salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com>, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
>
>
> I started this draft during the Berlin meeting, and since have had a lot
> of positive feedback.
>
> Would the APPSAWG be interested in taking it on as a WG document?
>
> Regards,
>
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> > Subject: New Version Notification for
> draft-nottingham-uri-get-off-my-lawn-02.txt
> > Date: 29 August 2013 2:01:29 PM AEST
> > To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
> >
> >
> > A new version of I-D, draft-nottingham-uri-get-off-my-lawn-02.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Mark Nottingham and posted to the
> > IETF repository.
> >
> > Filename:      draft-nottingham-uri-get-off-my-lawn
> > Revision:      02
> > Title:                 Standardising Structure in URIs
> > Creation date:         2013-08-29
> > Group:                 Individual Submission
> > Number of pages: 8
> > URL:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nottingham-uri-get-off-my-lawn-02.txt
> > Status:
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-uri-get-off-my-lawn
> > Htmlized:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-uri-get-off-my-lawn-02
> > Diff:
> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-nottingham-uri-get-off-my-lawn-02
> >
> > Abstract:
> >   Sometimes, it is attractive to add features to protocols or
> >   applications by specifying a particular structure for URIs (or parts
> >   thereof).  This document cautions against this practice in standards
> >   (sometimes called "URI Squatting").
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
> >
> > The IETF Secretariat
> >
>
> --
> Mark Nottingham   http://www.mnot.net/
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