Re: [wellknown-uri-review] A .well-known registration for review

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Tue, 01 May 2012 23:41 UTC

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My .02 - 

I suspect there are several better ways to do this, that don't do such bad things to the Web architecture. Well-known URIs are an escape valve, not permission :)

OTOH the role of a registry is to register, not to be a gatekeeper for quality. 

Regarding Eran's concern, I tend to agree, EXCEPT that 5785 also says:

>    It MAY also contain additional information, such as the syntax of
>    additional path components, query strings and/or fragment identifiers
>    to be appended to the well-known URI, or protocol-specific details
>    (e.g., HTTP [RFC2616] method handling).

So, strictly speaking, there's an argument for both sides here.

Anyway, I'd rather see these issues debated on the apps-discuss list than here. Although, apps-discuss is getting mighty busy these days...


On 01/05/2012, at 1:59 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> We have a draft [1] that requests a registration of
> a .well-known URI.
> 
> The core WG are likely to want to use these we think
> and possibly decade, but they're intended to be generally
> useful as well.
> 
> Barry Leiba is planning to AD sponsor this and Alexey
> Melnikov will be shepherding so if you can cc them as
> well as the authors on any questions or comments that'd
> be good.
> 
> I hope the plan is to IETF LC this soon, once this
> review and the uri registrations review are done.
> 
> Thanks,
> Stephen.
> 
> [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-farrell-decade-ni-05
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