Re: Updated language for 5378 rights?

[Brian Rosen <[e-mail]>]

Jay

I’ve been through this process (when the IETF Trust held the IP) several times.  Each time I asked the authors of prior work to grant using the approved language.  But in every case, the email just went to me.  Sometimes the shepherd wanted a copy.  Usually they are happy with just my assertion that all authors agreed.

But I’ve never been asked to copy the IETF, or the Trust, or anyone else.  Not sure if that’s SOP for everyone else.

But if you are "keeping a manual record of this to apply later”, how do you want to collect the assignments?

Brian

> On Jun 17, 2026, at 4:48 PM, Jay Daley <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted
> 
> The substantive answer is that, until the IETF IPMC says otherwise, then please do just replace IETF Trust with IETF IPMC in declaration below as the IETF Trust has transferred IETF IP to the IETF IPMC.
> 
> To explain why I’m answering this question this way requires a decomposition of the moving parts here:
> 
> 1. The IETF IPMC is the holder of the rights
> 2. The IETF is responsible for the process by which the grants of right to the IETF IPMC for pre-5378 documents are collected
> 3. The language used in that process is generally specified by the IETF IPMC
> 4. The IETF is responsible for letting IETF participants know about the status of pre-5378 documents
> 
> 2 & 4 will be implemented in Datatracker.  Until then we don’t want the assignment process to stop and so we (the IETF LLC) are accepting manual grant assignments using the old or amended wording and keeping a manual record of this to apply later.
> 
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> 
> Jay
> 
>> On 17 Jun 2026, at 19:44, Ted Hardie <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> 
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> I recently got a request for updating the license to text in an older RFC, with the following language:
>> 
>> To proceed, we require your explicit approval to grant the IETF Trust the full rights outlined in RFC 5378, including the right to produce derivative works outside the IETF Standards Process.
>> Please reply to this email with the statement: "I hereby grant the IETF Trust the rights specified in RFC 5378 for my prior contributions to this document."
>> 
>> Now that the function has been taken over by the IPMC, is the language the same but with IPMC swapped in for IETF Trust, or is there a different reference now?
>> best regards,
>> Ted
>> 
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