Re: Join/Leave beeps, mic muting

otroan@employees.org Thu, 30 April 2020 06:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: Join/Leave beeps, mic muting
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Carsten, et al,

For our previous 6man interim, Bob and I found no other way to do this than that the chair operating the slides needed two laptops.
At least we found no way for Webex to present the slides "full screen" without it also occupying the whole laptop window.
Then the other laptop for notes, jabber. I found having a backchannel to my co-chair over jabber was vital.
This setup worked fine, although I disliked that webex required a whole laptop just for slides. On the other hand having a separate keyboard for "press next" as opposed to having to switch windows to do that lessened delay.

Anyone with better suggestions?

Cheers,
Ole

> On 30 Apr 2020, at 07:32, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-04-28, at 18:33, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> I think that the reason that chairs are not muting people is because they are
>> trying to run meetings from laptops or small screens.  In order to display
>> the slides, they likely can no longer see the webex controls.
> 
> How do they do this?
> 
> -- Webex window, large enough to see the shared screen plus all the wasted real-estate around that, and to hit the unmute button in under a minute
> -- Etherpad/hackmd window
> -- jabber room, maybe a Telegram too
> -- a peek into the mail reader because participants always send last-minute mail
> -- My own slides/my copy of the current slides for leafing around
> -- My own notes
> -- The odd RFC open for looking things up
> 
> My 6MP laptop screen *plus* a separate 4K (8MP) desk top screen are already completely busy during a meeting.  I'll have to replace (or augment?) the desk top screen with a 50" UHD TV or so to cram more windows into my workspace...
> 
> Maybe someone could write some user scripts/chrome extensions for webex to
> 
> -- mute/unmute from a location on the screen that is not shifting away just when you try to click it
> -- maybe add keyboard shortcuts as well
> -- (more ambitious) rearrange items on the browser window in a sane way
> 
> I'm spending too much mental energy rearranging, clicking active, etc., all these windows.
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
>