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Re: Info about IETF protocol Badge/Logo process?

Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> Wed, 03 January 2024 18:25 UTC

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From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2024 13:25:37 -0500
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Subject: Re: Info about IETF protocol Badge/Logo process?
To: Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org>
Cc: Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>, IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
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Hi Jay,

On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 12:43 PM Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org> wrote:
> > On 3 Jan 2024, at 17:34, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Do you mean Greg Wood? There are lots of Greg's in the IETF.
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/person/Greg%20Wood
>
> Yes, the Greg I explicitly copied in so that people would know which Greg.

No, I see no evidence that you "explicitly copied in" Greg Wood although,
of course, I would not have seen it if you blind copied him. I did look at
the main headers on your message and, in gmail, they looked like the
following:

from:Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org>
to:Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
cc:IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
date:Jan 3, 2024, 12:24 PM
subject:Re: Info about IETF protocol Badge/Logo process?
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Only after failing to find any hint in these headers as to what "Greg" you
were talking about did I send my follow up message.

In case there was something obscure going on, I just used the "Show
original" feature in gmail and the result is attached. I see no sign that
you explicitly copied Greg.

Even if you had, it would have been good practice to use his full name and
be less cryptic.

Thanks,
Donald
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 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
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 d3e3e3@gmail.com

> Jay
>
> > Thanks,
> > Donald
> > ===============================
> > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
> > 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
> > d3e3e3@gmail.com
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 12:24 PM Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org>
wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Daniel
> >>
> >> The process is that you talk to Greg and he manages it all.  Provided
we have the budget and there are no objections, we generally just
commission one.
> >>
> >> Jay
> >>
> >> On 3 Jan 2024, at 17:15, Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
wrote:
> >>
> >> I recently became of the repository of "Protocol Badges" linked to from
> >> here:
> >>
> >> https://www.ietf.org/badges/
> >>
> >> It looks like the following protocols have "design-y" logos:
> >>
> >> QUIC, ACME, MLS, MASQUE, NTS, TLS 1.3, HTTP, HTTP/3, L4S, PRIVACYPASS
> >>
> >> Is there a process for how these badges are created and held by the
IETF
> >> trust?  I'd be happy with a pointer to documentation or mailing list
> >> discussion or anything like that if it already exists.
> >>
> >> If you were involved with any of these proocol badges, and you would
> >> rather talk about it off-list, feel free to reply to me privately as
> >> well.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>       --dkg
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jay Daley
> >> IETF Executive Director
> >> exec-director@ietf.org

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