Re: WG Conflict Clarity

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sat, 29 June 2019 17:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: WG Conflict Clarity
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Wes Hardaker <hardaker@isi.edu> wrote:
    > I've never, in many years of presenting at IETFs, had a chair ask me what
    > other groups I'm active in.  And trust me, they likely couldn't have
    > guessed the full list easily as I've dabbled in lots of areas and their
    > view of me has likely been associated with a single sub-area.

Maybe that's a bug :-)

    > [this could easily snow-ball to having even more documented conflicts to
    > deal with, unfortunately; IE, I have concerns that it will not make session
    > planning actually easier, but rather could make it harder]

The goal of clarifying these conflicts is not so that we can eliminate them,
but so that we can know when we can't eliminate them, which (kind of) conflict we are
compromising.

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