Re: Document shepherd writeup formats

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Tue, 26 November 2019 16:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: Document shepherd writeup formats
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:33:38 -0800
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I also prefer the Q&A form for the same reasons.

Bob


> On Nov 26, 2019, at 6:01 AM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I also prefer the Q&A form for the same reason.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:47 AM Margaret Cullen <margaretw42@gmail.com> wrote:
> Even as an experienced chair/shepherd, I have found the Q&A style form to be a useful checklist to make sure I have done everything I should do before forwarding the document to the AD.
> 
> Margaret
> 
> > On Nov 26, 2019, at 6:26 AM, Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On 26 Nov 2019, at 09:56, G Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 26/11/2019, 09:46, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> >>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 07:23, Alexey Melnikov<alexey.melnikov@isode.com>  wrote:
> >>>> For new WG chairs I prefer the question-and-answer format. In my experience new shepherds miss lots of checks which AD has to do if essay-style is used.
> >>> This not so new WG chair prefers the question-and-answer format for exactly the same reason pilots like checklists.
> >>>
> >>> Grüße, Carsten
> >> +1
> >
> > I agree - the Q&A format is my preference.
> >
> > Tim
>