Re: RFC 6982: Improving Awareness of Running Code: The Implementation Status Section

[Benoit Claise <[e-mail]>]

Adrian,
>
> As one of the authors of 6982 I would like some feedback.
>
> Thoughts from authors would be interesting, especially about "why not 
> include this information?"
>
> Thoughts from WG chairs would be valuable, especially about "did this 
> information help you make any decisions?"
>
> Thoughts from the IESG would be useful, especially about "did this 
> information help you when advancing the document?"
>
 From an IESG review point of view, yes this is useful information.
I find this section also useful when reviewing WG documents: the 
specifications with implementation experience prove more mature.

> I have my suspicions about answers to all three questions.
>
> The authors of 6982 had agreed that we would report back on the 
> experiment (possibly sooner than now). We talked briefly in Dallas 
> about when would be the right time to do that and concluded that there 
> is no pressing need - i.e., that we should let the experiment run on 
> to gather more data. Indeed, it is possible that the original 
> experiment time was not long enough to produce meaningful data.
>
> We also discussed how this might fold into CodeMatch, but looking at 
> the timeline for that project we thought that it was too early to know 
> whether that would be possible.
>
> Options for now appear to be:
>
> - refine the experiment and continue
>
> - let the experiment continue as is
>
> - replace the experiment with a permanent, but optional feature
>
> - replace the experiment with a permanent and mandatory feature
>
> - scrap the experiment and clean the floor
>
My preference would be for "let the experiment continues as is", and 
potentially, in the future,  "replace the experiment with a permanent, 
but optional feature" assuming that we see more occurrences of it ... 
which was the point behind the initial email.

Regards, Benoit
>
> Any continuation could be re-assessed in a year and/or when CodeMatch 
> has got momentum.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Adrian
>
> *From:*WGChairs [mailto:[e-mail]] *On Behalf Of 
> *Benoit Claise
> *Sent:* 07 May 2015 16:38
> *To:* WG Chairs
> *Subject:* RFC 6982: Improving Awareness of Running Code: The 
> Implementation Status Section
>
> Dear WG chairs,
>
> During the IESG retreat this week, we discussed running code. We would 
> like to bring your attention to this RFC: 6982, "Improving Awareness 
> of Running Code: The Implementation Status Section" (experimental).
> You can review section 4 for an explanation of the benefits.
> Interestingly, out of the 1918 current drafts, _only _32 use that 
> "Implementation Status" section.
>
> Please advertise this capability within your WGs.
>
> If you want to see examples, the 32 drafts are:
>
> draft-barre-mptcp-tfo-01.txt:
> draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5764-mux-fixes-02.txt:
> draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-ospf-ext-01.txt:
> draft-ietf-ccamp-flexible-grid-rsvp-te-ext-02.txt:
> draft-ietf-ccamp-flexigrid-lambda-label-03.txt:
> draft-ietf-codec-oggopus-07.txt:
> draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-chain-query-02.txt:
> draft-ietf-dnsop-qname-minimisation-02.txt:
> draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid-00.txt:
> draft-ietf-eppext-launchphase-05.txt:
> draft-ietf-eppext-tmch-smd-01.txt:
> draft-ietf-isis-mrt-00.txt:
> draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-03.txt:
> draft-ietf-ospf-mrt-00.txt:
> draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-extensions-02.txt:
> draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp-04.txt:
> draft-ietf-rmcat-nada-00.txt:
> draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm-03.txt:
> draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-architecture-05.txt:
> draft-ietf-tram-stun-origin-05.txt:
> draft-kong-eppext-bundling-registration-01.txt:
> draft-kouvelas-lisp-rloc-membership-01.txt:
> draft-li-isis-mrt-02.txt:
> draft-martinsen-tram-discuss-02.txt:
> draft-mrw-homenet-rtg-comparison-02.txt:
> draft-murchison-webdav-prefer-08.txt:
> draft-nottingham-safe-hint-06.txt:
> draft-pd-dispatch-msrp-websocket-08.txt:
> draft-petithuguenin-tram-stun-pmtud-00.txt:
> draft-templin-aerolink-52.txt:
> draft-yi-manet-reactive-jitter-04.txt:
> draft-zhu-rmcat-nada-06.txt:
>
> Regards, Benoit
>
>