Re: [Wpack] wpack: status

Hi folks,

I'm Hayato, working on Web Bundles in Google. I've recently taken over the
spec leadership from Jeffrey Yasskin.

As Sean mentioned, we are still motivated to publish the I-D, and are
willing to make changes based on IETF input.

In particular, I appreciate IETF's input on this open issue:
https://github.com/wpack-wg/bundled-responses/issues/18, which I want to
resolve.

> If the WG closes, there would also not be the IETF change control
expected of a Standards Track document, though it would still have value
documenting an Internet exchange format. In that event, it would be better
suited to go through the Independent Submissions Editor with labeling that
reflects its provenance as a Google format.

Let me take this back as Google's homework. I'm not sure what track is
suitable yet. Thanks!

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 1:46 PM Shivan Kaul Sahib <shivankaulsahib@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1 as well, though I’m not sure what the value of going through ISE would
> be either.
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 5:16 PM Mark Nottingham <mnot=
> 40mnot.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> +1 to that way forward.
>>
>> > On 29 Nov 2022, at 11:38 am, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2022, at 03:40, Sean Turner wrote:
>> >> For draft-ietf-wpack-bundled-responses, the authors have indicated
>> that
>> >> they are still motivated to publish the I-D, and are willing to make
>> >> changes based on IETF input. But, they need input. The issues we see
>> >> are that, without the security and privacy documents, the solution is
>> >> not likely to make it through the IESG.
>> >
>> > If there is not a working group working on this document, we shouldn't
>> push it.  We've had a few years for that input to be solicited and acted
>> upon; doing a last minute cram probably isn't going to produce the sort of
>> results we'd be proud of.
>> >
>> > If the authors are committed to publication (perhaps because this is
>> what Chrome is shipping), then might I recommend asking our Independent
>> Submissions Editor to help publish a document for that.  That might require
>> some work, but it avoids the really difficult stuff
>> >
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