RE: FW: I-D ACTION:draft-hoschka-smil-media-type-05.txt

Dan Kohn <dan@dankohn.com> Mon, 23 October 2000 14:54 UTC

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From: Dan Kohn <dan@dankohn.com>
To: Philipp Hoschka <ph@w3.org>
Cc: ietf-xml-mime@imc.org
Subject: RE: FW: I-D ACTION:draft-hoschka-smil-media-type-05.txt
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:59:32 -0700
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I would strongly suggest an include by reference, as implementation
experience will likely cause further updates to 2376bis at some point.  As
an example, you are actually quoting text from RFC 2376, not 2376bis (which
was just approved by the IESG this week!), and that text has significantly
less detail and justification.

If people are not willing to look up a referenced RFC, than they probably
won't bother reading the MIME registration RFC in the first place.

Also, as specified in Section 7.1 of <http://www.imc.org/draft-murata-xml>,
we would recommend referring to 2376bis for "specifying magic numbers,
fragment identifiers, base URIs, and use of the BOM".  If you decide not to
do so (e.g., because of non-XPointer fragment semantics), it would be worth
specifying that explicitly in your registration.

		- dan
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-----Original Message-----
From: Philipp Hoschka [mailto:ph@w3.org]
Sent: Sunday, 2000-10-22 11:26
To: Dan Kohn
Cc: ietf-xml-mime@imc.org
Subject: Re: FW: I-D ACTION:draft-hoschka-smil-media-type-05.txt


Dan,

thanks for the review. See replies below

Dan Kohn a écrit :
> 
> Philipp, could I suggest that you review
> <http://www.imc.org/draft-murata-xml>, which is expected to shortly
replace
> RFC 2376.  Specifically, I would strongly recommend changing your
> application to application/smil+xml, and quoting the appropriate sections
of
> RFC 2376bis by reference rather than by repeating the text.

For smil+xml, see Murata's recount of history. I added a paragraph
explaining why we chose not to use the postfix for this one.

As for the sections quoted by repeating the text: The sections were 
included by reference in earlier versions of the draft. I seem to
remember
that I decided to repeat the text either because somebody explicitly 
suggested doing this, or because somebody got it wrong when implementing
from an earlier draft. In any case, the intention is to make sure that
people actually follow these rather involved rules when implementing
application/smil.

If this doesn't convince you, I can consider taking them out again.
Before doing so, however, I would need to do some research on whether 
this wasn't something that was explicitly requested by somebody else.

> Thanks for considering this.
> 
>                 - dan
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> Dan Kohn <mailto:dan@dankohn.com>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, 2000-10-17 03:47
> Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-hoschka-smil-media-type-05.txt
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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> 
>         Title           : The application/smil Media Type
>         Author(s)       : P. Hoschka
>         Filename        : draft-hoschka-smil-media-type-05.txt
>         Pages           : 4
>         Date            : 16-Oct-00
> 
> This document specifies the Media Type for version 1 of the
> Synchronized Multimedia Integration Language (SMIL 1.0). SMIL allows
> integrating a set of independent multimedia objects into a
> synchronized multimedia presentation.
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