Re: [Xml-sg-cmt] Fwd: Heather's notes on implementation draft decisions, from 25 July 2019

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> Mon, 18 January 2021 17:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Xml-sg-cmt] Fwd: Heather's notes on implementation draft decisions, from 25 July 2019
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Thans, Henrik, this is helpful and timely. I'll dig into this ASAP.

On 1/18/21 10:40 AM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> 
> Re-sending the notes from Heather's decisions on raised issues.
> 
> After I sent this the first time, Robert and I went through existing issues
> both in the xml2rfc datatracker and I think the 7991-bis tracker and updated
> issues based on the notes.
> 
> I have also updated draft-levkowetz-xml2rfc-v3-implementation-notes with
> each decision, captured in the notes for each mentioned issue, so given how
> hard the PDFs in the attached messages are to read, it's probably easier to
> refer to the annotations in the latest version of that draft:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-levkowetz-xml2rfc-v3-implementation-notes-12
> 
> If you search that draft for "Heather's" you'll find resolution and a mention
> of "20 Jul 2019" or "25 Jul 2019", which corresponds to the PDFs in the attached
> messages.
> 
> 
> 	Henrik
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Heather's notes on implementation draft decisions, from 25 July 2019
> Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 18:14:07 +0200
> From: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
> To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>, John Levine <john.levine@standcore.com>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Forwarding the 2 emails from Heather with her notes on decisions regarding
> items in draft-levkowetz-xml2rfc-v3-implementation-notes-09, from the
> meetings Heather, Alice and I had on 20th and 25th July 2019 in Montreal
> (IETF 105)
> 
> The annotations were made on an iPad, and don't show up in all PDF readers.
> 
> The PDF in "First marked up copy" is a single very long unpaginated PDF,
> with notes with bad resolution in the right-hand margin, starting at
> section 2.1.
> 
> The PDF in "Second marked up copy" is paginated, and annotation start in
> the right-hand margin of section 3.1.22.
> 
> For me, Safari shows the annotations; Preview does not.
> 
> I'll document these in the next version of the implementation notes draft.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 	Henrik
>