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Re: [Xml-sg-cmt] Use of Reference elements in bibxml

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Mon, 07 February 2022 16:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Xml-sg-cmt] Use of Reference elements in bibxml
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>>> We had (I thought) an open question around the deprecation of <format> at 
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-levkowetz-xml2rfc-v3-implementation-notes-13#section-3.1.27, 
>>> but I'm not finding a ticket (open or closed). Am I missing something?
>> 
>> No, I think you're right, we never resolved it.
> Was this a single issue from the draft that we missed, or do we need to 
> scrape the draft again?

Not sure.

>> On the other hand, this is a bibliography entry so it makes sense to have 
>> one link to the info page, not try and guess what formats are available. ...

> You're still thinking with RFC blinders on. The bibxml references for 
> _drafts_ could be constructed pointing to all versions the datatracker knows 
> about. Or it could point only to the datatracker's main page instead of the 
> txt version of the document, but there's a lot of dissent in the community 
> about what "real" customers of our products should see most easily.

Yes, I know, and I find it extremely frustrating that many people seem to 
worry only about saving one click today, without any thought to what will 
make RFCs useful to people a decade or two from now.

I would be OK with some sort of shortcut pointer that we allow in I-D's 
but not in prepped RFCs, although I realize this would drive the 
aforemntioned people nuts.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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