Re: [xml2rfc-dev] consensus=true warning

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Mon, 18 November 2019 02:52 UTC

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On Nov 18, 2019, at 10:09, Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:
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> Also, where do you get the idea that status="standard" + consensus="false" is invalid?  That is always true for a draft.

That is part of the schizophrenia we are suffering from:
RFCXMLv3 is designed for the publishing version of RFCs, but by far its largest use is for the authoring version of Internet-Drafts.  Until we get more explicit about these distinctions, we will run into many more of this kind of problems.

Grüße, Carsten