Re: [xml2rfc] [rfc-i] will <vspace=n> disappear
Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Fri, 24 October 2014 10:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] [rfc-i] will <vspace=n> disappear
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Folks, The way I see this is that I don't particular care what is within the <here/> as long as it give me a line break and is not <here> paragraph </here>. Just one single element that gives me the the line break. I think I agree with most of what Julian says "not needed for RFC and final formatting". Though we have some cases where folks think it is useful. We need the xml to write RFCs and IDs, that is slightly different. I guess I've removed most of the <vspace> elements when document is in its production form. But when developing the ID the <vspace blankLines="1" /> is extremely useful. /Loa On 2014-10-24 11:41, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On 24 Oct 2014, at 08:01, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote: >> >> No hint needed. > > A useful example to ponder may be draft-ietf-6lo-ghc-05 > > This would be much harder to read without the tweaks. > > Requiring the author to provide hints to a level of detail that makes this manual intervention unnecessary doesn’t sound very productive. (Yes, I have been drinking the “declarative markup” Kool-Aid since 1982. I just know it’s not always the best way.) > > Grüße, Carsten > > _______________________________________________ > rfc-interest mailing list > rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest > -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64
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