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Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Tue, 21 January 2020 16:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Novice bad user on device, or Catch-22?
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On 1/21/20 8:37 AM, David R. Oran wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2020, at 3:26, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dave,
>>
> [snipping out to get to your question]
> 
>> On 2020-01-21 06:51, David R. Oran wrote:
>>
>> And yes, having v3 templates would be helpful.  I'll see if I can fix that
>> too.  Where would you normally grab a template?
>>
> well, by googling :-)
> Probably the home ought to be off the tools home page at tools.ietf.org. There’s already a “templates” link on that page - it’s to Elwyn Davies examples, and ought to have a V3 template.

I've just been lurking, but seems like a good time to comment...

I normally get my "template" by starting with some similar document, 
either one of my own if I have a suitable one, or from some document I 
am generally aware of.

But that doesn't work well now when there aren't many v3 documents to 
crib from.

I guess I would be inclined to grab the v2 for some similar document and 
convert it. But I guess maybe that won't give optimal style for the new 
document. So maybe having a recommended source of pure templates and 
also some "real" documents that are judged to be "good" examples would 
be helpful.

	Thanks,
	Paul

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