Re: [xml2rfc] xml2rfc online: references to I-Ds and associated dates

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Fri, 12 July 2019 13:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] xml2rfc online: references to I-Ds and associated dates
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On 12.07.2019 15:16, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> On 2019-07-11 23:51, John C Klensin wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I happened to look today at the reference produced for an I-D by
>> xml2rfc (at least by the online version at
>> https://xml2rfc.tools.ietf.org/ )
>>
>> The XML for the relevant cited I-D says (irrelevant material
>> elided and the identity of the I-D changed to avoid
>> distractions):
>>
>>    <reference <reference anchor="ID.draft-ietf-foo-bar"
>> 	 target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-foo-bar/">
>>       ...
>>      <date month="June" day="12" year="2019" />
>>      </front>
>>    </reference>
>>
>> The output is "June 2019".
>
> After looking through various output formats, my conclusion here
> is that this is the output from the v2 text formatter, not the
> v3 text formatter.  The v3 text formatter renders the date with
> day, month, and year if all 3 are given.  So going forward, it
> seems that this has already been addressed (assuming we leave the
> v2 formatter untouched at this late stage in its life cycle).
> ...

Hmmm.

That seems to be a rather big change to be introduced without notice.

I think the first thing that needs to happen is the RFC Style Guide
would need to say how to handle the format. Right now it says "year
month", and this is what tools have been generating for ages.

Heather?

Best regards, Julian