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Re: [xml2rfc] Tables in XML V3 - A downgrade

Charlie Perkins <charles.perkins@earthlink.net> Fri, 13 September 2019 16:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Tables in XML V3 - A downgrade
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Hello folks,

On 9/13/2019 9:45 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
>
> I think we need to look at the role of the plain text output in the
> future. The original plan was to make it as bare as possible, not even
> paginated. Not sure why we deviated from that.
>
That looks a lot like penalizing people who like plain text. Like me, 
for instance.

On the other hand it does seem to explain a lot of problems I've been 
having.

Regards,
Charlie P.

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