Re: [yang-doctors] [I2nsf] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-07

["Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Jan,
I have uploaded the revised draft into the IETF repository:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-09


I attach the revision letter, too.

Could you review the draft and complete your YANG review if you are
satisfied with the revision?
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm/


Thanks.

Best Regards,
Paul


On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 4:44 PM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> Hi Jan and Tom,
> I have revised our I2NSF Consumer-Facing Interface (CFI) Data Model Draft
> according to both your comments.
>
> Jan,
> I attach the revised draft and the revision letter to explain how I have
> reflected your comments one by one.
>
> Tom,
> the references to RFC inside our YANG module cannot be cited in my I-D XML
> file, so I cannot include them
> in Normative References.
>
> Also, the choice of the prefix  is i2nsf-cfi.
>
> I put "Note: This section is informative" for Sections 7 and 10, which
> include XML configuration examples.
>
> If you have further comments, please let me know by July 12, 2020, in EST.
> If possible, I want to post this revision on July 13, 2020 after
> reflecting your further comments on the revision.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 2:25 AM Jan Lindblad <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> Thank you for all your work with the module, and for the reminder for me
>> to verify all the changes.
>>
>> I am afraid I think the module is still not ready for last call, even if
>> it is better shape than ever thanks to your efforts. I went through the
>> module from top to bottom, so this is sorted in order of appearance.
>>
>> Line 107-204: The following identities are declared in the module, but
>> never referenced. They should either have a common base with something, or
>> be referenced somewhere. If not, why are they defined here? They currently
>> serve no purpose in this YANG module.
>>   identity ddos {
>>   identity enforce-type {
>>   identity admin {
>>   identity time {
>>
>> Line 377: Defining a custom date-and-time type seems odd. You should
>> probably use one that has already been defined
>>   typedef date-and-time {
>>
>> Line 513: The leaf represents the name of a user, but the format is
>> undefined. What should be the format for the string value? How would a user
>> know what to configure here? Email addresses? If implementation dependent,
>> say so.
>>     leaf name {
>>       type string;
>>       description
>>         "This represents the name of a user.";
>>
>> Line 518: If no IP address information is specified for the user-group,
>> what happens then? Is the user access accepted, rejected, or something else?
>>     uses ip-address-info;
>>
>> Line 658: Key leaf declared mandatory. All keys are mandatory, so
>> mandatory is not needed on this leaf.
>>     leaf policy-name {
>>       type string;
>>       mandatory true;
>>
>> Line 664: Users mentioned in the owners-ref should have full CRUD
>> privileges to the policy. But what about everyone else? Should they have
>> R(ead) privileges? Can anyone create new policies? If not, who can? If
>> someone creates a policy, but does not mention his own name among owners
>> (e.g. misspells or does not get the format right), he will not be able to
>> modify or remove the policy. If no owner is mentioned, then noone can.
>>     uses owners-ref;
>>
>> Line 673: Key leaf declared mandatory. All keys are mandatory, so
>> mandatory is not needed on this leaf.
>>         leaf rule-name {
>>           type string;
>>           mandatory true;
>>
>> Line 682: Users mentioned in the owners-ref should have full CRUD
>> privileges to the rule. But what about everyone else? Should they have
>> R(ead) privileges? Can anyone create new rules, or only those that have
>> full CRUD privileges for the policy? If someone creates a rule, but does
>> not mention his own name among owners (e.g. misspells or does not get the
>> format right), he will not be able to modify or remove the rule.
>>     uses owners-ref;
>>
>> Line 697: Choice enforce-type has a description that I can't understand.
>> What does this mean?
>>           choice enforce-type {
>>             description
>>               "There are two different enforcement types;
>>               admin, and time.
>>               It cannot be allowed to configure
>>               admin=='time' or enforce-time=='admin'.";
>>
>> Line 703: In case of enforce-type admin (whatever that means), a string
>> value needs to be configured. What are the valid values for this leaf?
>>             case enforce-admin {
>>               leaf admin {
>>                 type string;
>>                 description
>>                   "This represents the enforcement type
>>                   based on admin's decision.";
>>
>> Line 711: In case of enforce-type time, three times can be configured.
>> What is the relation between enforce-time, and the other two (begin-time,
>> end-time)?
>>             case time {
>>               container time-information {
>>                 description
>>                   "The begin-time and end-time information
>>                   when the security rule should be applied.";
>>                 leaf enforce-time {
>>                   type date-and-time;
>>                   description
>>                     "The enforcement type is time-enforced.";
>>                 }
>>                 leaf begin-time {
>>                   type date-and-time;
>>                   description
>>                     "This is start time for time zone";
>>                 }
>>                 leaf end-time {
>>                   type date-and-time;
>>                   description
>>                     "This is end time for time zone";
>>                 }
>>
>> Furthermore, the locally defined date-and-time type used includes both a
>> date and time, which seems to be at odds with the example configurations in
>> the draft. Example 9.2:
>>   <rules>
>>     <rule>
>>       <rule-name>block_access_to_sns_during_office_hours</rule-name>
>>       <event>
>>         <time-information>
>>           <begin-time>2020-03-11T09:00:00.00Z</begin-time>
>>           <end-time>2020-03-11T18:00:00.00Z</end-time>
>>
>> In the example, the rule-name "block_access_to_sns_during_office_hours "
>> suggests that the begin-time and end-time should be times of day between
>> which the policy should be enforced. E.g. every day between 9.00 and 18.00.
>> If that is a valid use case, using a time type with a date doesn't make
>> much sense. In the context of the policy that repeats "daily", how should
>> the start date-and-time value "2020-03-11T09:00:00.00Z " be interpreted?
>> What if it was "monthly"?
>>
>> Line 736: In the frequency leaf, the enumeration value only-once is for
>> rules that don't repeat. But how long do they apply? A single packet? A
>> single time the rule is triggered? How does a user know if the rule is
>> still in effect, i.e. if the "once" has happened or not?
>>               enum only-once {
>>
>> Line 835: Maybe it's just my limited understanding of how threat-feeds
>> work, but I wonder i this construct with source and destinations for threat
>> feeds is meaningful?
>>           container threat-feed-condition {
>>             description
>>               "The condition based on the threat-feed information.";
>>             leaf-list source {
>>               type leafref {
>>                 path
>> "/i2nsf-cfi-policy/threat-preventions/threat-feed-list/name";
>>               }
>>             description
>>               "Describes the threat-feed condition source.";
>>             }
>>             leaf dest-target {
>>               type leafref {
>>                 path
>> "/i2nsf-cfi-policy/threat-preventions/threat-feed-list/name";
>>               }
>>             description
>>               "Describes the threat-feed condition destination.";
>>
>> Line 920: Location groups can be configured, but there seems to be no
>> references to them. How are they supposed to be used?
>>       list location-group{
>>         key "name";
>>         uses location-group;
>>
>> Line 931: Regarding point 16.1 in your revision letter, you say "We think
>> list type of threat-feed-list can be configured more than one feed of the
>> same type". I'm afraid that is not the case with the current YANG model. If
>> you do wish to allow more than one threat-feed-list for the same
>> threat-feed-type, you need to add an additional key to your
>> threat-feed-list.
>>       list threat-feed-list {
>>         key "name";
>>         description
>>           "There can be a single or multiple number of
>>           threat-feeds.";
>>         uses threat-feed-info;
>>
>> ...
>>   grouping threat-feed-info {
>>     description
>>       "This is the grouping for the threat-feed-list";
>>     leaf name {
>>       type identityref {
>>         base threat-feed-type;
>>
>>
>> Generally, the indentation in the module is much improved. Some lines are
>> still a bit off, however, so I would recommend using a tool that indents
>> consistently.
>>
>> Generally, I also wonder whether there has been any discussion with
>> implementors around the admin security model proposed here. As noted
>> before, it's a bit different from everything else I have seen. Is it well
>> thought through? Do implementors feel this is doable and user friendly?
>> Currently there are no examples involving owner. Perhaps an example that
>> sheds some light over how different users create, modify and see the
>> various rules would shed some light over this.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> /jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 18 Mar 2020, at 18:41, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <[e-mail]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jan,
>> Could you update the state of YANGDOCTORS Last Call Review on
>> I2NSF Consumer-Facing Interface YANG Data Model  if the updates are fine
>> to you?
>>
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm/
>>
>> I think your comments are all addressed in this version.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Paul
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:15 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong <
>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jan,
>>> We authors have addressed your comments with the revision:
>>>
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-08
>>>
>>> I attach a revision letter to explain how to respond to your comments.
>>>
>>> If you have further comments, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 1:53 AM Jan Lindblad via Datatracker <
>>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Reviewer: Jan Lindblad
>>>> Review result: Almost Ready
>>>>
>>>> This is my YD review of
>>>> draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-07. I
>>>> have previously reviewed the -05 revision (~end June). I find the new
>>>> revision
>>>> much improved, but still with much to discuss. I will call this "almost
>>>> ready".
>>>>
>>>> Generally speaking, I think the YANG module lacks the precision and
>>>> descriptions needed to foster interoperability. The examples at the end
>>>> are
>>>> very enlightening however, and compensate for much of that, but their
>>>> informal
>>>> nature can never replace proper YANG. The module usage needs to be
>>>> mostly clear
>>>> from the module itself.
>>>>
>>>> The management access control model proposed here is, even with its
>>>> latest
>>>> adaptation towards NACM, is still quite different from NACM author's
>>>> original
>>>> ideas. I will therefore bring this use case up in the NETMOD WG for
>>>> discussion.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Network access control principles
>>>>
>>>> Network access control is about which users are able to use the network
>>>> being
>>>> managed, for example connect to facebook. The purpose of the NSF module
>>>> is to
>>>> control this access. This version of the YANG module is now based on a
>>>> list of
>>>> policies.
>>>>
>>>> Each policy has a list of rules. Each rule has an event -- condition --
>>>> action
>>>> triplet. This resembles traditional firewall management, which is a
>>>> good thing,
>>>> because that concept is stable and much tried. This allows operators to
>>>> create
>>>> lists of rules in this style:
>>>>
>>>> if pkt.x == 1: drop                     // Rule 1
>>>> elif pkt.y > 2: alert                   // Rule 2
>>>> elif pkt.z == 10: pass          // Rule 3
>>>> else: drop                              // Rule 4
>>>>
>>>> This pattern relies heavily on the ability to control the order of the
>>>> rules.
>>>> The current model relies on the alphabetical sorting of names rules for
>>>> the
>>>> ordering. The YANG trick I would recommend to give operators the
>>>> ability to
>>>> insert and move rules as they wish is to add ordered-by user on the
>>>> list:
>>>>
>>>>     list rule {
>>>>       ordered-by user;  // <== Add this line
>>>>       leaf rule-name {
>>>>
>>>> Nothing is said about what the system should do in case policies
>>>> conflict. What
>>>> if one policy says pass, the other drop for the same packet? Please
>>>> clarify.
>>>> What should happen to packets that do not match any of the policies?
>>>>
>>>> This module also assumes that all users in the operator's organization
>>>> are
>>>> listed in one or more NACM groups (e.g. "employees"). That wasn't
>>>> really the
>>>> NACM authors' original intent. Even if this could be made to work
>>>> maybe, there
>>>> is no strong reason to repurpose the NACM group concept for user
>>>> network access
>>>> purposes. It could easily be modeled differently. So in the cases where
>>>> there
>>>> are leafrefs to NACM groups when dealing with network access rather than
>>>> management access, don't use NACM groups.
>>>>
>>>>                 leaf src-target {
>>>>                   type leafref {
>>>>                     path
>>>> /nacm:nacm/nacm:groups/nacm:group/nacm:user-name;  //
>>>>                     <== Point to some other list of network users
>>>>
>>>> 2. Management access control principles
>>>>
>>>> Management access control is about which users are able to configure/run
>>>> actions/the policies and rules. IMO, the most controversial aspect of
>>>> this
>>>> module has always been its new and creative management access control
>>>> model. In
>>>> this revision, the management principles have been remodeled greatly to
>>>> fit in
>>>> with NACM. I find this redesign very promising, but the result is still
>>>> not
>>>> quite ready for publication.
>>>>
>>>> The point where integration with NACM concepts is important is when it
>>>> comes to
>>>> allow some users to CRUD the NSF policies and rules themselves. There
>>>> is now a
>>>> leaf-list "owners" on each policy and rule which point to a list of NACM
>>>> groups. My understanding is that the idea is that the NSF module should
>>>> be seen
>>>> as a service model that translate high level ownership information to
>>>> specific
>>>> NACM rules. It would be good to mention these ideas somewhere in the NSF
>>>> document.
>>>>
>>>>   leaf-list owners {
>>>>     type leafref {
>>>>       path /nacm:nacm/nacm:groups/nacm:group/nacm:name;
>>>>
>>>> I expect the intent is that any user listed in a NACM group mentioned
>>>> in the
>>>> owners list would get full CRUD privileges for the contents of the rule
>>>> the
>>>> owners leaf sits on. That is never spelled out anywhere, however.
>>>>
>>>> It is a little less clear how leaf-list owners on policy objects should
>>>> be
>>>> handled. Should owners listed on a policy object get full CRUD powers
>>>> over the
>>>> entire policy, including all the rules inside? Or would they need to be
>>>> listed
>>>> on the rules as well? Not clear. Is the intent that users not listed on
>>>> the
>>>> policy object are unable to create new rules, but to be able to update
>>>> rules
>>>> they are listed as owners of, if any?
>>>>
>>>> Who is allowed to create new policy objects? Should users that are not
>>>> owners
>>>> get read access to all the policies and rules?
>>>>
>>>> Finally, there is an "owner" leaf on each rule with an identityref
>>>> allowing
>>>> operators to configure a role name like dept-head or sec-admin. It is
>>>> marked
>>>> mandatory, but never included in any of the examples at the end of the
>>>> document. This makes me think this may be a remnant from bygone times
>>>> and
>>>> should be removed from the YANG. If not, an explanation of how to use
>>>> this
>>>> leaf, and how it interacts with "owners" needs to be added, and the
>>>> examples
>>>> updated.
>>>>
>>>> 3. leafrefs crosspointing between policy instances
>>>>
>>>> There are six leafrefs that point to various objects inside a policy,
>>>> e.g. a
>>>> rule condition pointing to a device group name. None of them restrict
>>>> what can
>>>> be pointed to so that only names within the current policy are valid.
>>>> It is
>>>> therefore possible to configure the name of a device group defined in a
>>>> different policy. I suspect this is not the intention. In order to
>>>> restrict the
>>>> leafrefs to the same policy, the following predicate can be added:
>>>>
>>>>                 leaf-list src-target {
>>>>                   type leafref {
>>>>                   path
>>>>
>>>> "/i2nsf-cfi-policy[policy-name=current()/../../../../../policy-name]/endpoint-group/device-group/name";
>>>>                    // <== Add predicate
>>>>
>>>> 4. Mandatory to implement all events, conditions, actions
>>>>
>>>> Each rule is defined with a choice of different events (admin, time),
>>>> conditions (firewall, ddos, custom, threat-feed) and actions (pass,
>>>> drop,
>>>> alert, mirror, ...). Is the intent that all of these options should be
>>>> mandatory to implement? The current model requires this. Also, would it
>>>> make
>>>> sense to allow additional mechanisms here? If so, it may be good to
>>>> explain to
>>>> readers how the set of choices and identities can be extended by
>>>> implementations.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Optional and mandatory elements
>>>>
>>>> In this revision of the module, 8 leafs have been marked mandatory. A
>>>> few of
>>>> them are list keys, which are conventionally not marked mandatory,
>>>> since list
>>>> keys are always mandatory. A few others are skipped in the XML examples
>>>> at the
>>>> end of the NSF document, which makes me believe they might not really be
>>>> mandatory after all.
>>>>
>>>> Three leafs have a default, but most leafs are left optional without any
>>>> default. In many cases I think I understand what it means to not set a
>>>> leaf,
>>>> but with the ones listed here, I don't think it clear at all. Either
>>>> add a
>>>> default to make it clear, make them mandatory if they should be, or
>>>> explain in
>>>> the leaf description what happens if not set.
>>>>
>>>> 493: leaf-list name
>>>> 513: leaf-list protocol
>>>> 531: leaf geo-ip-ipv4
>>>> 541: leaf continent
>>>> 562: leaf feed-server-ipv4
>>>> 585: leaf payload-description
>>>> 590: leaf-list content
>>>> 600: leaf-list owners
>>>> 870: leaf method
>>>>
>>>> 6. Indentation
>>>>
>>>> The YANG indentation is mostly wrong. Run the YANG text through pyang
>>>> or some
>>>> other tool that can indent the content correctly before you put it into
>>>> a
>>>> document.
>>>>
>>>> 7. YANG element naming
>>>>
>>>> The YANG convention is to not have lists on the top level in the YANG
>>>> module,
>>>> but to surround lists with a container. The surrounding container often
>>>> has a
>>>> name in the plural and the list in singluar, like this
>>>>
>>>> container interfaces {
>>>>     list interface {
>>>>
>>>> To better fit into the world of IETF YANG modules, I'd recommend
>>>> turning the
>>>> top level list i2nsf-cfi-policy into this instead:
>>>>
>>>> container i2nsf-cfi-policies {
>>>>     list policy {
>>>>
>>>> Further down, I would change container rule to rules:
>>>>
>>>> container rules {
>>>>     list rule {
>>>>
>>>> Finally, it is customary to not repeat the names of parent object in
>>>> the names
>>>> of elements. For example, in the following:
>>>>
>>>> list threat-feed-list
>>>>     leaf feed-name
>>>>     leaf feed-server-ipv4
>>>>     leaf feed-server-ipv6
>>>>     leaf feed-description
>>>>
>>>> all the leafs should normally not repeat "feed-". Just leaf name, leaf
>>>> server-ipv4, leaf server-ipv6, leaf description. There are many more
>>>> examples
>>>> of this throughout the module.
>>>>
>>>> The condition choice has many containers with a single leaf inside (e.g.
>>>> ddos-source). Their purpose is rather unclear to me. Remove?
>>>>
>>>>               container ddos-source {
>>>>                 description
>>>>                 "This represents the source.";
>>>>                 leaf-list src-target {
>>>>
>>>> Also, I find the name "src-target" rather confusing. How about "source"?
>>>>
>>>> 8. No date leaf
>>>>
>>>> The draft text near fig 2 talks about a date leaf. There is no date
>>>> object in
>>>> this revision of te YANG.
>>>>
>>>> "Date:  Date when this object was created or last modified"
>>>>
>>>> 9. leaf owner
>>>>
>>>> Near fig.3 leaf Owner is mentioned. Is this leaf still current?
>>>>
>>>> "Owner: This field contains the onwer of the rule.  For example,
>>>>              the person who created it, and eligible for modifying it."
>>>>
>>>> 10. leaf packet-per-second
>>>>
>>>> This is now modeled as uint16. Is this future proof? Many packet flows
>>>> on the
>>>> internet exceed 64k pps.
>>>>
>>>> 11. container custon-source
>>>>
>>>> Misspelled. Should be custom-source
>>>>
>>>> 12. identity ddos
>>>>
>>>> Is ddos a malware file-type? This is not exactly in line with my
>>>> intuition.
>>>>
>>>> 13. identity protocol-type
>>>>
>>>> There are other modules that already define protocol-types. Would it be
>>>> worth
>>>> reusing one of them?
>>>>
>>>> 14. identity palo-alto
>>>>
>>>> Is it a good IETF practice to list vendor names in modules? Can we
>>>> consider
>>>> this a protocol name? Is there perhaps an RFC/specification name for it
>>>> that we
>>>> could reference instead?
>>>>
>>>> 15. grouping ipsec-based-method
>>>>
>>>> This grouping contains a list which allows listing none of, either of
>>>> or both
>>>> of ipsecike and ikeless. Are all valid configurations?
>>>>
>>>> 16. leaf feed-name
>>>>
>>>> This leaf is the key in a list, which makes it possible to have at most
>>>> one
>>>> feed of each type. If it would make sense to configure more than one
>>>> feed of
>>>> the same type, the YANG needs to be updated here.
>>>>
>>>> 17. leaf-list content
>>>>
>>>> This leaflist is of type string. What is the format of this string?
>>>> Does the
>>>> name refer to something?
>>>>
>>>> 18. Event types
>>>>
>>>> container event has a choice between enforce-admin and time
>>>> alternatives. Each
>>>> of those choices have a leaf that allows the operator to configure an
>>>> identityref to an enforce-type value. What does that mean? What would
>>>> it mean
>>>> if an operator configured admin == 'time' (or enforce-time == 'admin')?
>>>>
>>>> 19. leaf begin-time, end-time
>>>>
>>>> >From the examples, it can be seen that these are meant to be a time of
>>>> day
>>>> values. Currently they are modeled as yang:date-and-time, which means
>>>> they are
>>>> a concrete time a specific day, e.g. 2019-11-11T16:07. This needs to be
>>>> changed
>>>> in order to be what the modeler intended. Perhaps like this:
>>>>
>>>> typedef time-of-day {
>>>>     type string {
>>>>         pattern '(2[0-3]|[01]?[0-9]):[0-5][0-9]';
>>>>     }
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> 20. leaf frequency
>>>>
>>>> This leaf is now modeled properly from a YANG perspective. But what
>>>> does it
>>>> mean? If this leaf is set to 'once-only', what exactly will happen only
>>>> once?
>>>> Please write a description that explains this.
>>>>
>>>> 21. Example in Fig.17
>>>>
>>>> The example contains XML that refers to "endpoint-group/user-group".
>>>> There is
>>>> no such element in the YANG.
>>>>
>>>> <endpoint-group
>>>> xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-i2nsf-cfi-policy">
>>>>   <user-group>
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, there is nothing called range-ip-address, start-ip-address,
>>>> end-ip-address. They are called range-ipv4-address, start-ipv4-address,
>>>> end-ipv4-address.
>>>>
>>>>     <range-ip-address>
>>>>       <start-ip-address>221.159.112.1</start-ip-address>
>>>>       <end-ip-address>221.159.112.90</end-ip-address>
>>>>     </range-ip-address>
>>>>
>>>> Finally, there must not be any xmlns attribute on an closing XML tag. So
>>>>
>>>> </endpoint-group
>>>> xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-i2nsf-cfi-policy">
>>>>
>>>> should be
>>>>
>>>> </endpoint-group>
>>>>
>>>> This happens in several of the examples.
>>>>
>>>> 22. Example in Fig.18
>>>>
>>>> There is no element called policy any more. It's now i2nsf-cfi-policy.
>>>>
>>>>    <policy xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-i2nsf-cfi-policy">
>>>>      <policy-name>security_policy_for_blocking_sns</policy-name>
>>>>
>>>> The rules are modeled in a container and list, both by the name rule.
>>>> So there
>>>> needs to be two <rule> tags.
>>>>
>>>>      <rule>
>>>>        <rule-name>block_access_to_sns_during_office_hours</rule-name>
>>>>
>>>> The security-event element is marked mandatory in the YANG, but missing
>>>> in the
>>>> example. The times given below may be what is intended, but do not
>>>> match the
>>>> date format for the type used (which include a date, etc).
>>>>
>>>>        <event>
>>>>          <time-information>
>>>>            <begin-time>09:00</begin-time>
>>>>            <end-time>18:00</end-time>
>>>>          </time-information>
>>>>        </event>
>>>>
>>>> Since the example is not mentioning leaf frequency, it will have the
>>>> value
>>>> 'once-only'. Maybe explain what that means in the context of the
>>>> example?
>>>>
>>>> The condition/firewall-condition says the src-target is mandatory and
>>>> dest-target optional, exactly like below.
>>>> condition/custom-destination/dest-target is mandatory and src-target is
>>>> optional, exactly like below. Is this pure luck, or is there a logical
>>>> explanation why exactly those should be mandatory, and the example use
>>>> precisely those?
>>>>
>>>>        <condition>
>>>>          <firewall-condition>
>>>>            <source-target>
>>>>              <src-target>employees</src-target>
>>>>            </source-target>
>>>>          </firewall-condition>
>>>>          <custom-condition>
>>>>            <destination-target>
>>>>              <dest-target>sns-websites</dest-target>
>>>>            </destination-target>
>>>>          </custom-condition>
>>>>
>>>> The current YANG model does not allow setting both a firewall-condition
>>>> and
>>>> custom-condition. If that should be allowed, the model needs to change.
>>>> Should
>>>> it be possible to have multiple firewall- or other conditions? That is
>>>> not
>>>> currently possible.
>>>>
>>>> This example leaves out the mandatory leaf owner. Is that a sign that
>>>> it should
>>>> not be mandatory, or perhaps not exist at all?
>>>>
>>>> 23. Example in Fig.19
>>>>
>>>> This example lists a firewall-condition with no src-target, which is
>>>> mandatory.
>>>>
>>>>       <firewall-condition>
>>>>         <destination-target>
>>>>           <dest-target>employees</dest-target>
>>>>         </destination-target>
>>>>       </firewall-condition>
>>>>
>>>> Under condition, there is a container rate-limit with a leaf
>>>> packet-per-second.
>>>> Is this a trigger value for the condition, or is it an actual limit
>>>> that the
>>>> system is expected to enforce? If it's a trigger, it may be good to
>>>> find a
>>>> clearer name. If it's enforced, it's placement under condition is
>>>> deceiving.
>>>>
>>>> If a rule's action is set to 'rate-limit', to which rate will it be
>>>> limited?
>>>>
>>>> 24. Security Considerations
>>>>
>>>> Section 10 in the NSF document under review is the Security
>>>> Considerations. I
>>>> think it would make sense to mention something about the management
>>>> access
>>>> control mechanism here, and its relation to NACM.
>>>>
>>>> (End of list)
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ===========================
>>> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
>>> Associate Professor
>>> Department of Software
>>> Sungkyunkwan University
>>> Office: [phone]
>>> Email: [e-mail], [e-mail]
>>> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php
>>> <http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ===========================
>> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Software
>> Sungkyunkwan University
>> Office: [phone]
>> Email: [e-mail], [e-mail]
>> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php
>> <http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> ===========================
> Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Computer Science and Engineering
> Sungkyunkwan University
> Office: [phone]
> Email: [e-mail], [e-mail]
> Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php
> <http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php>
>


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Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Sungkyunkwan University
Office: [phone]
Email: [e-mail], [e-mail]
Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php
<http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php>