Re: [yang-doctors] Deprecated Nodes

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From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>, YANG Doctors <yang-doctors@ietf.org>
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Hi Acee,

In addition to Juergen’s comments, the text in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-verdt-netmod-yang-module-versioning/ may be interesting, particularly sections 3.1.1 and 5.3.

The long term aim here is to require that “status deprecated” nodes are implemented in the same way that they would be if they were “status current”, or otherwise the server must use explicit deviations to indicate any “status deprecated” nodes that are not implemented.

Thanks,
Rob


From: yang-doctors <yang-doctors-bounces@ietf.org>; On Behalf Of Acee Lindem (acee)
Sent: 08 August 2019 15:44
To: YANG Doctors <yang-doctors@ietf.org>;
Subject: [yang-doctors] Deprecated Nodes

When a client retrieves configuration for a device, should the deprecated nodes be included in the response? For example, using NETCONF get-config? I have my own interpretation of the answer but don’t want to bias the response from others.

Thanks,
Acee