Re: [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-17

Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Tue, 12 September 2017 15:13 UTC

Return-Path: <bclaise@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66446133025; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:13:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -14.501
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PX9B_k6pZc_n; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:13:04 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from aer-iport-1.cisco.com (aer-iport-1.cisco.com [173.38.203.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA2F4132192; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 08:13:03 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=4995; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1505229184; x=1506438784; h=subject:from:to:cc:references:message-id:date: mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9YeoNTv9Jp9HvkZPMfp3K/efeCXeGFQFMbuenkST0jQ=; b=aJ4ZY2L/ZUj7pdG3Ypw9+Yudhn+fny6Zi343OnLteMgRKmOOjp4/+Ivn eP88QxRXP2tl6wbyQdGbGzi7fkmEq9MQdy3tjOY6khTnftL228iPxW6aO Uupo3NVF1LfoLftAjU9554Oet5c7KW6J4rgJsEA0q7LQs9pRZ+Hl1vQId w=;
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0DuBAAW+bdZ/xbLJq1cGQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBBwEBAQEBhD85NSeDd4sVkHkrliiCEgoYC4UbAoUCFgECAQEBAQEBAWsohRgBAQEDAQEBIQ8BBTMDCxAJAg4KAgImAgInMAYBDAYCAQGKJQgQjXqdZoInizMBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEYBYEOgh2BMYIhgWIBK4FwgQ2EYYMpgkIfAQSRJ49Nh1uMd4IThWiDWiSGeY1ah1WBOSYFLIENMiEIHBVKhRgcGYFQPjaKCQEBAQ
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.42,383,1500940800"; d="scan'208";a="697132629"
Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-3.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 12 Sep 2017 15:12:45 +0000
Received: from [10.55.221.36] (ams-bclaise-nitro3.cisco.com [10.55.221.36]) by aer-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id v8CFCjF4013401; Tue, 12 Sep 2017 15:12:45 GMT
From: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
To: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>, yang-doctors@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model@ietf.org
References: <150522471325.4635.14752495169160376100@ietfa.amsl.com> <84020ec0-ef28-191c-2518-afe50c9cc705@cisco.com>
Message-ID: <4809c99b-95ec-68b0-cbab-daccea18c01e@cisco.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:12:45 +0200
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <84020ec0-ef28-191c-2518-afe50c9cc705@cisco.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Language: en-US
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/yang-doctors/utpgGoyY-Z5s16u6ZRTvUdQhlCI>
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-17
X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate <yang-doctors.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/yang-doctors>, <mailto:yang-doctors-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/yang-doctors/>
List-Post: <mailto:yang-doctors@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:yang-doctors-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors>, <mailto:yang-doctors-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 15:13:06 -0000

Kent,

The question is: your feedback has been addressed in the version 17?

Regards, Benoit
> On 9/12/2017 3:58 PM, Kent Watsen wrote:
>> Reviewer: Kent Watsen
>> Review result: Ready with Issues
>>
>>
>> [This is from my review posted to netmod ML on July 12]
>>
>> As shepherd, yang doctor, and individual contributor, following is
>> my LC/YD review.
>>
>> 1. Because I know this draft will not be presented in Prague, I first
>> checked to see if it was NMDA-compatible.  The draft contains just
>> one module, and it only contains config true nodes (no config false
>> nodes).  There is no companion "-state" module in the Appendix. As
>> far as I can tell, all this is accurate, as I don't believe this
>> module needs to do anything special to be NMDA compatible. Agreed?
>>
>> 2. the abstract seems just a little bland.  Is there any way to beef
>> it up with a sentence or two?
>>
>> 3. S1, P1, last sentence.  s/the messages/these messages/?
>>
>> 4. S1, P3, 1st sentence: "and processes those"?  - rewrite sentence?
>>
>> 5. S1 as a whole.  I'm a bit unclear what this section is doing.  It
>> seems to be a general summary of Syslog (RFC5424).  Do we need this 
>> here?
>>
>> 6. S1.1: you should also reference RFC8174 here.
>>
>> 7. S1.2: three terms come from 5424, but only one has its definition
>>     provided.  This seems inconsistent...
>>
>> 8. S2: s/6020/7950/
>>
>> 9. S3, P3: this paragraph is hard to read due to the previous paragraph
>> talking about proprietary features.  Maybe replace the beginning of the
>> sentence to read "Some optional features are defined in this document
>> to specify"?
>>
>> 10. S3, P4: The diagram appears to show multiple originators, not
>> just one, so s/an originator/originators/?  Also, I don't think
>> either of the commas are needed.
>>
>> 11. S3, P6: This paragraph starts a new aspect of the design, right?
>> This is likely just a text-rendering issue, but the transition from
>> the diagram above (Figure 1) to this line is not visible.  Can you
>> provide a transition sentence?
>>
>> 12. S3, P8: I'm having trouble understanding the pseudocode. What
>> happens if S and/or F are not present?  Can S or F ever not be
>> present? - looking at the tree diagram, it seems like they might
>> always be set to something in the model.
>>
>> 13. S3.1, P1: RFC 6087 did not define tree diagram notation, and
>> rfc6087bis references the tree-diagram draft.  I don't think that
>> it is safe for this draft to reference the tree-diagram draft, as
>> that draft is unstable (the notation may change).  You should
>> probably copy/paste the Tree Diagram Notation section found in
>> other drafts today (especially mine).
>>
>> 14. S3.1: is /syslog/actions/remote/destination/tls/ missing an
>> 'address' leaf?
>>
>> 15. S4.1, P1: Doesn't the module import *groupings* from ietf-keystore
>> and ietf-tls-client?
>>
>> 16. S4.1, though it's not in 6087bis, I think that it is best
>> practice for 'import' statements to include a 'reference'
>> substatement:
>>
>>    import ietf-keystore {
>>      prefix ks;
>>      reference
>>        "RFC YYYY: Keystore Model";
>>    }
>>
>> 17. S4.1, imports that are used for groupings only should use a
>> revision statement:
>>
>>    import ietf-tls-client {
>>      prefix tlsc;
>>      revision-date YYYY-MM-DD; // stable grouping definitions
>>      reference
>>        "RFC ZZZZ: TLS Client and Server Models";
>>    }
>>
>> 18. S4.1, can you put the beginning of the 'organization' (i.e. "IETF")
>> on the next line, s/NETCONF Data Modeling Language/Network Modeling/,
>> and put a blank line in after the 'organization' line?
>>
>> 19. S4.1, in the 'severity-filter' grouping, why does leaf 'severity'
>> have values set for enums 'none' and 'all'?  When would these values
>> be used, as opposed to the enum's name string?  If you do need values,
>> then shouldn't 'none' be 2147483647 (so nothing can be greater than it)
>> and 'all' be -2147483648 (so everything is greater than it)?
>>
>> 20. S7: can you indent the two blocks of details so the whole thing
>> reads better?
>>
>> 21. S8: please rework so this section so it matches the new template
>> at: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines
>>
>> 22. S8.1: it would be better if the third paragraph was moved up to
>> become the first paragraph.
>>
>>
>> DISCLAIMER: I'm not a syslog expert, but have interacted with it,
>> including structured-syslog, over the years.
>>
>> Kent
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> yang-doctors mailing list
>> yang-doctors@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors
>> .
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> yang-doctors mailing list
> yang-doctors@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors
> .
>