Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Thanks, Bangkok !)

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Sat, 10 November 2018 03:04 UTC

Return-Path: <paul@nohats.ca>
X-Original-To: 103attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: 103attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D7012F1AB for <103attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:04:57 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nohats.ca
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xjd0--gzRi5Q for <103attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:04:55 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mx.nohats.ca (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:2a03:6000:1004:1::68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34F6512D4EB for <103attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 19:04:55 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42sMM85nzwzG8N for <103attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 04:04:52 +0100 (CET)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nohats.ca; s=default; t=1541819092; bh=MHWFYIH9taMKYYKpI7JQ/FdVI0uQwo0rfX2ZBuYI5cM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=f8VOuuqxOZan+iGo+3JEOVKRyqviUNlH6OVOKYC2XUQX8bLezhxDso8ck9a6lluBl VQpuXpjj34uL6V7UHkv41LuagnXrm5nR+M+rxk+PyG1jkn/iuSevsv2dSi9TDhta/D 4LAZ880ZzOtJLtn5HCviQ9k46Bz0TwGfFgmvUOVI=
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.nohats.ca
Received: from mx.nohats.ca ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mx.nohats.ca [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZceJywy9sggi for <103attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 04:04:51 +0100 (CET)
Received: from bofh.nohats.ca (bofh.nohats.ca [76.10.157.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS for <103attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 10 Nov 2018 04:04:50 +0100 (CET)
Received: by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8F875677A75; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 22:04:49 -0500 (EST)
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bofh.nohats.ca 8F875677A75
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.nohats.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D1D41C3B26 for <103attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 22:04:49 -0500 (EST)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 22:04:48 -0500
From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
To: 103attendees@ietf.org
In-Reply-To: <CAPt1N1kBfhZH0+0Tjo+ps0c5P19k-C4pzKSeR6xR721JUSSWtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.21.1811092202580.32173@bofh.nohats.ca>
References: <3F80FD28-C7D9-4C72-96FA-1ACD60A3A4B3@ackl.io> <7C9CE065-947B-435F-A8DA-FDDA0C3B1DBB@tzi.org> <E1443D6EC0DFCDCC464FD64C@PSB> <CAPt1N1kBfhZH0+0Tjo+ps0c5P19k-C4pzKSeR6xR721JUSSWtA@mail.gmail.com>
User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (LRH 202 2017-01-01)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/103attendees/gXSGWEIDlh4C99whnF7D5TPJcW4>
Subject: Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Thanks, Bangkok !)
X-BeenThere: 103attendees@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Mailing list of IETF 103 attendees that have opted in on this list <103attendees.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/103attendees>, <mailto:103attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/103attendees/>
List-Post: <mailto:103attendees@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:103attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/103attendees>, <mailto:103attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2018 03:04:57 -0000

On Fri, 9 Nov 2018, Ted Lemon wrote:

> Quite a few times when someone wanted to comment remotely they couldn't, because their microphone wasn't working.   This wasn't necessarily meetecho's fault in a direct
> way, but we have to figure out how to get this right if we're serious about remote participation.

That is going to be hard unless this is tested with a real virtual queue
test. I know for instance on my laptop, when I use HDMI and then unplug,
then my audio will still point to the no longer existing output device,
and the only way to get it back is to replug my HDMI (tv) device, and
then select builtin laptop audio. (Linux is ready for the laptop!)

Paul