Re: [69ATTENDEES] IETF in the local news
Lloyd Wood <lwood@cisco.com> Sat, 28 July 2007 16:34 UTC
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To: Richard Barnes <richard.barnes@gmail.com>, 69attendees@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [69ATTENDEES] IETF in the local news
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At Friday 27/07/2007 08:53 -0500, Richard Barnes wrote: >This article was in the local paper this morning. Saw it in hard copy >on the IETF message board, but here's an electronic version. Copied >from: ><http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/premium/printedition/Friday/chi-fri_netheadsjul27,0,2758439.story> >--Richard Worth pointing out that the article made page 1 of the Chicago Tribune, left-hand column. An article in the same issue debates celebrity deaths, and whether they should feature on the front page. Thus, the IETF meet ranks with Marilyn Monroe. L. >www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/premium/printedition/Friday/chi-fri_netheadsjul27,0,2758439.story > >chicagotribune.com > >Their mission: A better Internet >A loose-knit group of 'netheads' gathers in Chicago to tackle some of >the problems vexing the Web > >By Jon Van > >Tribune staff reporter > >July 27, 2007 >Click here to find out more! > >The guys who decide how the Internet should work (a few are women) >want you to know they don't run the Internet. Nobody does. > >Despite its tremendous influence on Web technology, the Internet >Engineering Task Force goes to great lengths to be loosey-goosey, >almost hippylike. It is a purely voluntary group with no dues, no >board of directors and no headquarters. > >"Our mission is to make the Internet work better," said Russell >Housley of Herndon, Va., one of some 1,200 engineers from the U.S. and >40 other countries who gathered in Chicago this week to swap ideas. >Earlier this year they met in Prague, Czech Republic, and later they >will meet in Vancouver. > >The engineers make suggestions in the form of technical language >protocols with arcane acronyms like TCP and DKIM, and they have >developed a system for reviewing, approving and publishing standards. >But they have no power to enforce anything. > >Ordinary people who use the Web would have no idea what these >engineers talk about -- or that they even exist. > >But it was not difficult to spot the "netheads" as they gathered in >meeting rooms at Chicago's Palmer House Hilton or sat in the hotel's >coffee shops and eateries. Nearly every one is tapping away on a >laptop computer as he talks, eats or listens to others. > >"Nothing beats two guys sitting in a bar drawing on a cocktail napkin >over a beer," said Housley. > >One project the engineers have worked on is aimed at decreasing phony >e-mail messages asking you to provide your bank, PayPal or some other >legitimate-sounding outfit with personal financial information. This >form of spam, known as phishing, seeks to trick unsuspecting people by >appearing to come from their bank or other place where they do >business. > >A new task force standard attaches a signature to real communications >from an actual business, enabling computer servers to identify and >discard the phonies. > >"If a server gets 70 e-mails from PayPal and only five have the real >signature, then only five go through and the other 65 don't," said >Barry Leiba, who has worked with other engineers for about 30 months >on the new standard. > >"Some companies are starting to adopt the standard, and we hope that >within a year people will see fewer phishing spams," said Leiba. "The >consumer doesn't have to do anything. Users don't understand the >details and don't have answers. We don't want to involve them in >this." > >Leiba's day job is working as a senior technical staff member for >Internet messaging with IBM Research. Like most of the engineers who >work on Internet standards he does so with his company's blessing. > >"I'm not here representing IBM," he said. "We are looking for what >will improve the Internet, not what promotes our company's interest. >Our companies all have a general interest in seeing the Internet work >better." > >While most of the volunteers are engineers, anyone can attend a >meeting of the task force, listen to what is said and make >suggestions, and while they need not be professional engineers, they >do have to have a deep understanding of technical issues and language. > >"No one is going to ask to see your diploma," said Olaf Kolkman, chief >of NLnet Labs in Amsterdam. "Anyone can participate." > >Kolkman said some people he has never met have made comments and >suggestions online that have been incorporated into standards. Some >engineers who attend the meetings have no affiliation with any >company. A few made big bucks during the dot-com boom, retired early >and participate in the task force as a hobby, said Housley. > >The engineers discuss suggestions and reach what they call a "rough >consensus and running code," meaning that most go along with a >solution that works. All the work is published online as engineers >make comments and revisions. > >Tasks on their plate include revising standards so that equipment >exploring Mars can send photos back to the Internet for researchers to >see immediately. Problem is, computers are used to things happening in >seconds or milliseconds and it takes about four minutes for a bit to >travel from here to Mars, so adjustments are in order. > >There's also a push to improve Internet telephony so that calls aren't >dropped because computers lose track of the identity of the machines >they are communicating with. > >The group, started with a meeting of 21 people in 1986, strives for a >type of anarchy that mirrors the Internet itself but does rely on a >certain amount of organized support. > >The Internet Society, a not-for-profit organization based in Reston, >Va., provides logistical support for task force gatherings and >recruits sponsors. Cell phone-maker Motorola Inc. picked up much of >the tab for the Chicago meeting, and AT&T Inc. donated high-speed >lines to bolster the Palmer House Hilton's communications systems. > >Bringing 1,200 Internet-obsessed engineers into a hotel for a week >creates a communications demand that would cause an ordinary system to >crash in an hour or two, said Steven Schroedl, founder of Verilan >Networks in Portland, Ore., who brought a crew of five and literally a >ton of equipment to beef up the hotel's wireless Internet. > >They added switches to a dozen electrical closets in the hotel and >installed 30 access points for wireless Internet. > >"If you brought this group into a hotel without doing this," said >Schroedl, "it would be a disaster. At this meeting, it doesn't matter >how nice the venue or whether the food is good. It could be Paris or >Prague, but if they can't get on the network, all they'll ever >remember is how bad it was." > >- - - > >Five Internet priorities > >*Stop phishing spam > >*Improve communication with Mars probes > >*Improve telephony > >*Optimize video transmission > >*Adjust technology to allow basic functions (like e-mail) in Africa, >South America > >_______________________________________________ >69ATTENDEES mailing list >69ATTENDEES@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/69attendees Cisco router in space tested: ftp://ftp-eng.cisco.com/lwood/cleo/README.html -- Lloyd Wood lwood@cisco.com http://www.cisco.com/go/space space initiatives manager, Cisco Systems Global Government Solutions Group 11 New Square, Bedfont Lakes, London. +44-20-8824-4236 cell:+44-7730-711075 _______________________________________________ 69ATTENDEES mailing list 69ATTENDEES@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/69attendees
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