Re: [6lo] MLE docs to be dropped
Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> Tue, 04 April 2017 07:29 UTC
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Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 09:29:39 +0200
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Subject: Re: [6lo] MLE docs to be dropped
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Dear Robert and Gabriel, I did not follow these documents and did not review but I am not sure why we don't have reviewers in IETF, while the group adopted it. I hope the authors look into this issue and reply that they are the authors and they want to drop it as well. If the authors don't want to continue authoring we may get some interests from the group to continue it because we adopted it. Authors are responsible to follow up any adopted document they author but they need to follow with the group and see the group's views. Few authors in IETF (ex. MANET) make some reviewers out of the picture and argue not to follow comments/discussions. This behaviour I have seen in IETF but hope it is not the reason for our problem. I see this as a problem, because I don't think we SHOULD depend on other companies in adopting our work. I have argued with LLN WG before not to close because of that, some thought that we have less companies interest in the WG so close. We need to focus on humans/engineers not companies. If a company is not interested any more to use the technology we adopted then we don't close it as followes to them, IETF should be a leader in the world not following a company/country policy/controllers. I hope our WG gets a good reason of such drop, and I hope our authors' confirm their reactions. BEst Wishes, AB On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 3:24 AM, Robert Cragie <robert.cragie@gridmerge.com> wrote: > As one of the original supporters, I have no concerns with this. > > Robert > > On 3 April 2017 at 02:16, Gabriel Montenegro < > Gabriel.Montenegro@microsoft.com> wrote: > >> Folks, >> >> >> >> Making sure the list is aware of this: at the meeting in Chicago last >> Wednesday we indicated that we intend to drop the MLE documents we had >> adopted (in large part due to ZigBee’s Jupiter Mesh request) for >> Experimental status. >> >> >> >> The documents are: >> >> - https://tools.ietf.org/wg/6lo/draft-ietf-6lo-mesh-link-estab >> lishment/ >> - https://tools.ietf.org/wg/6lo/draft-ietf-6lo-mle-hip-dex/ >> >> >> >> MLE even went through WG LC and received some comments, but there has >> been no revision, and in the meantime, Jupiter Mesh is no longer depending >> on it. Furthermore, the other potential interested party was the Thread >> Group, but it became clear a few months ago that they do not depend on this >> document either. >> >> >> >> The WG will drop the MLE documents by the end of this week (April 7) >> unless we hear some new information. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gabriel, on behalf of 6lo chairs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 6lo mailing list >> 6lo@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lo >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > 6lo mailing list > 6lo@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lo > >
- Re: [6lo] MLE docs to be dropped Gabriel Montenegro
- [6lo] MLE docs to be dropped Gabriel Montenegro
- Re: [6lo] MLE docs to be dropped Robert Cragie
- Re: [6lo] MLE docs to be dropped Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [6lo] MLE docs to be dropped Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [6lo] MLE docs to be dropped Richard Kelsey
- Re: [6lo] MLE docs to be dropped yoshihiro.ohba