Re: [6lo] MLE docs to be dropped

[Abdussalam Baryun <[e-mail]>]

I ment......LLN WG = ROLL WG

sorry I forgot the correct name, but there it is,

AB

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Abdussalam Baryun <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> Dear Robert and Gabriel,
>
> I did not follow these documents and did not review but I am not sure why
> we don't have reviewers in IETF, while the group adopted it. I hope the
> authors look into this issue and reply that they are the authors and they
> want to drop it as well. If the authors don't want to continue authoring we
> may get some interests from the group to continue it because we adopted it.
> Authors are responsible to follow up any adopted document they author but
> they need to follow with the group and see the group's views. Few authors
> in IETF (ex. MANET) make some reviewers out of the picture and argue not to
> follow comments/discussions. This behaviour I have seen in IETF but hope it
> is not the reason for our problem.
>
> I see this as a problem, because I don't think we SHOULD depend on other
> companies in adopting our work. I have argued with LLN WG before not to
> close because of that, some thought that we have less companies interest in
> the WG so close. We need to focus on humans/engineers not companies. If a
> company is not interested any more to use the technology we adopted then we
> don't close it as followes to them, IETF should be a leader in the world
> not following a company/country policy/controllers.
>
> I hope our WG gets a good reason of such drop, and I hope our authors'
> confirm their reactions.
>
> BEst Wishes,
>
> AB
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 3:24 AM, Robert Cragie <[e-mail]
> > wrote:
>
>> As one of the original supporters, I have no concerns with this.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> On 3 April 2017 at 02:16, Gabriel Montenegro <
>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Making sure the list is aware of this: at the meeting in Chicago last
>>> Wednesday we indicated that we intend to drop the MLE documents we had
>>> adopted (in large part due to ZigBee’s Jupiter Mesh request) for
>>> Experimental status.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The documents are:
>>>
>>>    - https://tools.ietf.org/wg/6lo/draft-ietf-6lo-mesh-link-estab
>>>    lishment/
>>>    - https://tools.ietf.org/wg/6lo/draft-ietf-6lo-mle-hip-dex/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MLE even went through WG LC and received some comments, but there has
>>> been no revision, and in the meantime, Jupiter Mesh is no longer depending
>>> on it. Furthermore, the other potential interested party was the Thread
>>> Group, but it became clear a few months ago that they do not depend on this
>>> document either.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The WG will drop the MLE documents by the end of this week (April 7)
>>> unless we hear some new information.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gabriel, on behalf of 6lo chairs
>>>
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