Re: [6lo] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-6lo-rfc6775-update-16: (with COMMENT)

[Warren Kumari <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
<[e-mail]> wrote:
> Hello Warren:
>
> Super! We're getting there already.
>>
>> Great.
>>
>> > I wanted to point out that NCEs that are not in use can be flushed, so I also
>> meant to limit the need of memory to IP addresses that are currently in active
>> conversations via this router.
>> > If there are more conversations than NCEs then caching/flushing becomes
>> ineffective. What about:
>> >  "for all directly connected addresses to which it is currently forwarding
>> packets , but entries that do not appear to in use may be flushed."
>>
>> Sounds good, or "for all directly connected addresses to which it is currently
>> forwarding packets (entries that do not appear to in use may be flushed)."
>> I'm fine with either.
>
> [PT>] Done; the section now reads as
>
>     In IPv6 ND <xref target="RFC4861"/>, a router needs enough storage
>     to hold NCEs for all directly connected addresses to which it is currently
>     forwarding packets (entries that do not appear to be in use may be flushed).
>     In contrast, a router serving the Address Registration mechanism
>     needs enough storage to hold NCEs for all the addresses that may be
>     registered to it, regardless of whether or not they are actively
>     communicating.
>
>

Awesome, thanks.

>> >
>> >> Nits:
>> >> Section 4.2.1.  Comparing TID values
>> >> "In order to keep this document self-contained and yet compatible,
>> >> the text below is an exact copy from section 7.2.  "Sequence Counter
>> >> Operation" of [RFC6550]."" I think that it would be helpful to
>> >> delimit the copied text (perhaps by indenting it) -- it was unclear
>> >> to me where the copied text started and ended, and so I had to go
>> >> read RFC6550 (which kind of defeats the purpose of copying it).
>> > [PT>]  This text quoted above was discussed at the meeting. The group
>> wanted to detach from RFC 6550 and not give an impression that this spec
>> would inherit RPL's evolution should the referred behavior change. The text
>> was replaced by:
>> > "
>> >         As a note to the implementer, the operation of the TID is fully
>> >         compatible with that of the RPL Path Sequence counter as described in
>> >         the "Sequence Counter Operation" section of the "IPv6 Routing Protocol
>> >          for Low-Power and Lossy Networks [RFC6550] specification.
>> > "
>> >
>>
>> Sorry, I guess I was unclear in my note -- I was suggesting something like:
>> "In order to keep this document self-contained and yet compatible, the text
>> below (to the end of the section) is an exact copy from section 7.2."
>> or
>> "In order to keep this document self-contained and yet compatible, the text
>> below (from <BEGIN> to <END> is an exact copy from section 7.2."
>> or something.
>> But, this was just a suggestion - I'm fine with the original too.
>>
>>
> [PT>] yes but the WG wanted the whole sentence away. We do not mention the act of copy any more, just the fact that we are compatible.
>

Ah, now I understand.

>>
>> >>
>> >> Section Appendix B.  Requirements (Not Normative) "This section lists
>> >> requirements that were discussed discussed by the 6lo WG..."
>> >> I guess that they were discussed at length? :-P
>> >>
>> > [PT>] to death as https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-6lo-rfc6775-
>> update-reqs-07 but for the section I added based on Juergen's comments for
>> manageability "Requirements Related to Operations and Management". This
>> one came in late and I need your and Juergen's comments on it.
>> >
>>
>> Sorry, I was overly terse -- I was just referring to the "discussed discussed".
> [PT>] Oups, done : )
>
>> > [PT>] done! Please let me know if you are OK with the changes above
>> > and I'll publish rev-17
>>
>> Yup, I'm a happy camper. Thank you very much for such a quick turnaround.
>> W
>
> [PT>] Will publish right now : )
>
> Take care,
>

Thanks, you too.
W

>
> Pascal



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