Re: [6tisch] request for agenda item slot for 6tisch conf call Fri Dec 19, 2014

[Rene Struik <[e-mail]>]

Hi Dan:

Thanks for the information. I still would like to request this agenda slot.

Rene

On 12/10/2014 5:23 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The 6tisch WG has the option of nominating a Liaison Manager to the IEEE 802.15 WG. This is not always necessary and not always the best way of communicating with peer organizations which the IETF works with in close collaboration like the IEEE 802 WG but it can be done if the WG feels it is needed.
>
> See http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bradner-ietf-liaisoning-00.txt (work-in-progress) for useful information about the responsibilities of the IETF liaison managers, and the process of nominating them.
>
> Ted as Shepherding AD and myself can help you with further information.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
> (speaking as IETF liaison manager to the IEEE-SA)
>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 6tisch [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Pat Kinney
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 6:27 PM
>> To: [e-mail]
>> Subject: Re: [6tisch] request for agenda item slot for 6tisch conf call Fri Dec
>> 19, 2014
>>
>> I must admit that I am confused by Rene's questions in this email thread as
>> he has participated in the IEEE 802 meetings for some time and knows the
>> rules to which IEEE 802 adheres.
>>
>> It is obvious that there are numerous persons that currently attend both IETF
>> and IEEE 802 meetings, I am one of them. Within IEEE 802.15 there is an
>> interest group, IG 6tisch, that is focused on collaboration with IETF 6tisch.
>> There is also the IEEE-IETF coordination team leadership  way for the
>> leadership from the IETF and the IEEE 802 to interact and provide early
>> warning about the projects being discussed within each group. Finally, the
>> IEEE 802 executive committee has numerous liaison facilitators with respect
>> to IETF>
>>
>> Although both IETF and IEEE 802 are open organizations, they do operate in
>> different manners.  However, I believe that we have seen time and time
>> again where IEEE 802 and IETF are dedicated to working together to fulfill the
>> marketplace's need for communication standards.
>>
>> Finally, as far as speaking to 6tisch's interests with consensus, what
>> consensus is being inferred? What 6tisch matters have not been relayed to
>> the IEEE 802.15 WG?
>>
>>
>> Pat Kinney
>>
>>
>> Pat Kinney
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>>
>> On 9, Dec2014, at 9:54, Rene Struik <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> Dear colleagues:
>>
>> During the 6tisch meeting of IETF-91, I asked the question how one would be
>> sure the 802.15.4 revision spec would satisfy the needs of 6tisch. At the time,
>> it was suggested that 6tisch-802.15 liaison would take care of this.
>>
>> I have a question here, though, since I have never seen any discussion on
>> this "liaison" in 6tisch. Shouldn't one have more transparency here of who is
>> representing 6tisch here and that this would liaison would really addresss
>> 6tisch's technical interests? I know that the set of people participating in
>> 6tisch and 802.15 does have a non-empty intersection (i.e., some participate
>> in both). While I do acknowledge the experience of those people, this does
>> not necessarily mean they can speak for 6tisch's interests, at least not
>> without consensus.
>>
>> I do realize there is some tension here, since IEEE operates in a different way
>> than IETF, but I think this is an important enough topic to raise this.
>>
>> I would like to request the 6tisch Chairs to put this on the agenda of the next
>> 6tisch conf call, on Fri December 19, 2014, 11am EST, so that we can have
>> some more clarity here.
>>
>> Best regards, Rene
>>
>> ==
>> [excerpt personal notes RS of 6tisch meeting, Nov 13, 2014, Honolulu]
>> 802.15.4e: revision
>> RS: make sure 802.15.4e fits our needs {6tisch-802.15 liaison}
>>
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