Re: [72attendees] Oldest IETF Person

Vint Cerf <vint@google.com> Wed, 06 August 2008 08:05 UTC

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as to the second criterion, people like larry roberts, paul baran,  
leonard kleinrock and donald w davies would be the winners although  
as far as I know, none of them has been active in IETF (although I  
think Larry tried to get IETF to adopt some of his QOS ideas didn't  
he?). Steve was certainly involved in ARPANET officially before I was  
but we both worked on a proposal to provide the ARPANET to ARPA while  
we were working for Jacobi Systems in Santa Monica as graduate  
students at UCLA.

vint


On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:29 AM, Dave Crocker wrote:

>
>
> Merely to see whether there might be interesting, other choice,  
> given interesting, other criteria:
>
>
> The IETF derived from the existing efforts to develop and operate  
> the Internet.   So, two earlier dates might be:
>
> "Earliest involvement -- or oldest person involved in the earlier  
> activities --in the world of TCP (excluding IP, because it was not  
> part of the original effort), and
>
> "Earliest involvement -- or oldest person -- in the preceding  
> packet work, including Arpanet and related efforts in other countries.
>
> Almost by definition, Vint has to win the first one, so I'm  
> inclined to suggest starting from 1976, when there was a broader  
> effort doing initial implementation. I suspect Vint still wins.
>
> Vint probably wins the second one, but perhaps it's Steve.
>
>
> /Crocker Jr.
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