Re: [Ace] Erik Kline's No Objection on draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-17: (with COMMENT)

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Subject: Re: [Ace] Erik Kline's No Objection on draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-17: (with COMMENT)
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Hello Erik,

Thanks a lot for your review! Please find in line below our detailed 
replies to your comments.

A Github PR where we have addressed your comments is available at [PR].

Unless any concern is raised, we plan to soon merge this PR (and the 
other ones related to other received reviews), and to submit the result 
as version -18 of the document.

Thanks,
/Marco

[PR] https://github.com/ace-wg/ace-key-groupcomm/pull/162

On 2023-11-25 06:58, Erik Kline via Datatracker wrote:
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> draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-17: No Objection
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> # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-17
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> ## Comments
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> ### S6
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> * What is the real meaning behind:
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>     The KDC can perform a group rekeying before the current group keying
>     material expires, unless it is acceptable or there are reasons to
>     temporarily pause secure communications in the group, following the
>     expiration of the current keying material.
>
>    Specifically: when is it acceptable to "pause secure communications"?

==>MT

We have extended the paragraph as below.

OLD
 > The KDC can perform a group rekeying before the current group keying 
material expires, unless it is acceptable or there are reasons to 
temporarily pause secure communications in the group, following the 
expiration of the current keying material.

NEW
 > The KDC can perform a group rekeying before the current group keying 
material expires, unless it is acceptable or there are reasons to 
temporarily pause secure communications in the group, following the 
expiration of the current keying material. For example, a pause in the 
group communication might have been scheduled to start anyway when the 
group keying material expires, e.g., to allow maintenance operations on 
the group members. As another example, the KDC might be carrying out a 
verification that some group members are seemingly compromised and to be 
evicted, and this requires to be completed in order to appropriately 
define and schedule the exact rekeying process to perform. As a result, 
the KDC could delay the execution of the group rekeying.

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Marco Tiloca
Ph.D., Senior Researcher

Phone: +46 (0)70 60 46 501

RISE Research Institutes of Sweden AB
Box 1263
164 29 Kista (Sweden)

Division: Digital Systems
Department: Computer Science
Unit: Cybersecurity

https://www.ri.se