Re: [Ace] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-ace-extend-dtls-authorize-05

[John Mattsson <[e-mail]>]

Hi Paul,

Thanks for you review.

I very much agree with you that this should have been part of the RFC 9202. In fact, I pointed out the need for TLS compatibility very early in the standardization process. The situation right now is that this was unfortunately not done, and that TLS/TCP is very much needed for the 3GPP use of RFC 9202. This should have been standardized yesterday, so any increased delay would not be good. 3GPP is waiting for this draft. A future update to RFC 9202 might be worth doing.

> But it fails to do the work of actually making those revisions. It leaves that work to the  reader. It is hard to believe that all readers will infer the identical set of changes.
I don’t see what is missing and what would be hard to infer, and I am not an author of RFC 9202. It would be more constructive if you could provide advice on how to improve draft-ietf-ace-extend-dtls-authorize.

> I suggest that this document's status be changed to an informational
I think it would be strange if DTLS transport is standards track and TLS is informal. Also Informational is not compatible with the current IANA actions. I would suggest not doing this.

Cheers,
John

From: Paul Kyzivat <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, 20 January 2023 at 18:32
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Subject: Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-ace-extend-dtls-authorize-05
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Document: draft-ietf-ace-extend-dtls-authorize-05
Reviewer: Paul Kyzivat
Review Date: 2023-01-20
IETF LC End Date: 2023-01-24
IESG Telechat date: ?

Summary:

This draft is on the right track but has open issues, described in the
review.

Issues: 1

1) ISSUE: Form and completeness of the document

This document reads as a good concept document proposing how RFC 9202
could be revised to allow use of both TLS and DTLS. But it fails to do
the work of actually making those revisions. It leaves that work to the
reader. It is hard to believe that all readers will infer the identical
set of changes.

I suggest that this document's status be changed to an informational,
and then work begin on an rfc9202bis document that incorporates the
proposed changes.