Re: [Ace] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-17: (with COMMENT)

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Mon, 18 December 2023 18:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ace] Warren Kumari's No Objection on draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-17: (with COMMENT)
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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 12:22 PM, Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca@ri.se> wrote:

> Hello Warren,
>
> Thanks a lot for your review! Please find in line below our detailed
> replies to your comments.
>
> A Github PR where we have addressed your comments is available at [PR].
>


Awesome, thank you. All looks good to me!

W



> Unless any concern is raised, we plan to soon merge this PR (and the other
> ones related to other received reviews), and to submit the result as
> version -18 of the document.
>
> Thanks,
> /Marco
>
> [PR] https://github.com/ace-wg/ace-key-groupcomm/pull/165
>
> On 2023-11-29 20:54, Warren Kumari via Datatracker wrote:
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> Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-17: No Objection
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> COMMENT:
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> Thank you for writing this document - I found it both useful, and an easy read.
>
> I do have a nit / readability suggestion:
>
> "New keying material is generated and distributed to the group upon
> membership changes (rekeying), if the application requires backward
> security (i.e., new group members must be prevented from accessing
> communications in the group prior to their joining) and forward
> security (i.e., former group members must be prevented from
> accessing communications in the group after their leaving)."
>
> I found this wording confusing - I think that it is the comma after "upon
> membership changes (rekeying)". This initially sounds like "new keys are
> generated on every membership change. If the application requires backward
> security then [something else / something additional". I *think* that just
> dropping the comma fixes it...
>
>
> ==>MT
>
> We have rephrased the paragraph as follows.
>
> OLD
> > New keying material is generated and distributed to the group upon
> membership changes (rekeying), if the application requires backward
> security (i.e., new group members must be prevented from accessing
> communications in the group prior to their joining) and forward security
> (i.e., former group members must be prevented from accessing communications
> in the group after their leaving).
>
> NEW
> > New keying material is intended to be generated and distributed to the
> group upon membership changes (rekeying). If the application requires
> backward security (i.e., new group members must be prevented from accessing
> communications in the group prior to their joining), then a rekeying has to
> occur every time new members join the group. If the application requires
> forward security (i.e., former group members must be prevented from
> accessing communications in the group after their leaving), then a rekeying
> has to occur every time current members leave the group or are evicted from
> the group.
>
> <==
>
> You also have a typo: "It is REQUIRED of application profiles of this
> specificaton to" - specification.
>
>
> ==>MT
>
> Yes, fixed in a previous editorial PR at https://github.com/ace-wg/
> ace-key-groupcomm/pull/156/files
>
> <==
>
>
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