Re: [Ace] draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz

Samuel Erdtman <samuel@erdtman.se> Mon, 02 October 2017 08:47 UTC

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From: Samuel Erdtman <samuel@erdtman.se>
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2017 10:47:30 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Ace] draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz
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My thoughts inline

On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Hannes Tschofenig <
hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net> wrote:

> [chair hat off]
>
> Hi all,
>
> I believe there are a few changes necessary for
> draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz in order to complete it and I am wondering
> what the rest of the group thinks.
>
> 1) We have seen various contributions that want to use the ACE framework
> for protocols other than CoAP. Still, the framework document focuses on
> CoAP. I believe we should make it more generic by saying that there are
> profiles using CoAP and others that don't. There shouldn't be anything
> wrong with it.
>

Agree, but I think it is good if we can have examples in some way and CoAP
is a well known option that people are familiar with.


>
> 2) There are various references to OSCOAP in the document and I believe
> they are misleading since the framework does not depend on nor even use
> OSCOAP.
>

The references (I can find two) to OSCOAP are informal and uses OSCOAP as
an object security example. I don´t think this is a big issue but I´m okay
with removing these references too. However I do think examples improves
readability.


>
> 3) The "Client Token" is somewhat experimental and not on par with the
> rest of the document in terms of maturity and alignment with OAuth. I
> would prefer this functionality to be covered in a separate document, if
> someone still cares about it. While OAuth has seen a lot of formal
> analysis this feature obviously hasn't. It should be clear from the
> description that it is underspecified and currently insecure. For
> example, it is not clear how the AS determines freshness of the
> authentication request.
>

Agree, I think client token should be split out to a separate document so
that the framework can proceed.


>
> Thoughts?
>
> Ciao
> Hannes
>
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